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Hi all, I am considering using 1Password as my password manager. I have tried using 1Password extension in Brave on my work windows computer. Since I don't have admin right, I am not allowed to in...
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In today's (2/26) Wall Street Journal is an article about someone whose 1Password account was hacked via Github malware with the hacker gaining access to the poor guy's vault(s).  He did not have 2FA enabled for his 1Password account.  (Not sure about the secret key in this scenario?)  (Article titled: \"A Disney Worker Downloaded An AI Tool.  It Led To A Hack That Ruined His Life.\"

In his 1Password account were credentials that included  2FA one-time codes.  There are some (me) who believe having a 2FA code in 1Password along with the username and password is a bad idea as if a compromise occurs, all the bits to get into an account are right there.  So I use an authenticator app for critical accounts.  Simple enough, second factor is someplace else, so bad guys need to do more work to get into an account.

But it got me thinking about passkeys.  I've done forum searches and other digging on this question, and I'm still not quite sure on the answer.  And that is, if, as in the above scenario, my 1Password account is compromised and a hacker gains access to my vaults with my credentials via a browser, do the passkeys stored in 1Password enable access to those accounts?  Or is there something about the passkey security model that prevents access in this scenario?

At this point I'm thinking the answer is yes as the private key is stored in 1Password - that's why the passkey works on all my devices. 

That said, the question remains.  I look forward to reading the answer.

 

 

 

 

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In today's (2/26) Wall Street Journal is an article about someone whose 1Password account was hacked via Github malware with the hacker gaining access to the poor guy's vault(s).  He did not have 2FA enabled for his 1Password account.  (Not sure about the secret key in this scenario?)  (Article titled: \"A Disney Worker Downloaded An AI Tool.  It Led To A Hack That Ruined His Life.\"

In his 1Password account were credentials that included  2FA one-time codes.  There are some (me) who believe having a 2FA code in 1Password along with the username and password is a bad idea as if a compromise occurs, all the bits to get into an account are right there.  So I use an authenticator app for critical accounts.  Simple enough, second factor is someplace else, so bad guys need to do more work to get into an account.

But it got me thinking about passkeys.  I've done forum searches and other digging on this question, and I'm still not quite sure on the answer.  And that is, if, as in the above scenario, my 1Password account is compromised and a hacker gains access to my vaults with my credentials via a browser, do the passkeys stored in 1Password enable access to those accounts?  Or is there something about the passkey security model that prevents access in this scenario?

At this point I'm thinking the answer is yes as the private key is stored in 1Password - that's why the passkey works on all my devices. 

That said, the question remains.  I look forward to reading the answer.

 

 

 

 

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psiberfunk wrote:

What I DONT understand about this article is how the secret key didn’t serve as a second factor of sorts and how they exfiltrated the 1Password data .

Exactly. The victim in this case sounds to be fairly sophisticated and knowledgeable from a technical standpoint, so what attack vector was used?

 About the only scenario I can think of is that he logged into his 1P ACCOUNT at 1P.com using his Secret Key & PW for some reason vs unlocking his local app using his pw rather than biometrics (I use touch ID on my Mac except when required to use my pw once a month or so).

...still looking for more specifics to assure that I don't have a similar open door... Hopefully, AgileBits is investigating and will provide a comprehensive blog post...

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psiberfunk wrote:

What I DONT understand about this article is how the secret key didn’t serve as a second factor of sorts and how they exfiltrated the 1Password data .

Exactly. The victim in this case sounds to be fairly sophisticated and knowledgeable from a technical standpoint, so what attack vector was used?

 About the only scenario I can think of is that he logged into his 1P ACCOUNT at 1P.com using his Secret Key & PW for some reason vs unlocking his local app using his pw rather than biometrics (I use touch ID on my Mac except when required to use my pw once a month or so).

...still looking for more specifics to assure that I don't have a similar open door... Hopefully, AgileBits is investigating and will provide a comprehensive blog post...

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Hey JAC3467! đź‘‹

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First, to address the core concern that some folks might have upon jumping into this thread: 1Password itself was not hacked. In this case, the attacker compromised the individual’s local device and intercepted their Account Password using a keylogger, which allowed them to log into 1Password. Once a device is compromised, an attacker can gain nearly unrestricted access.

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While enabling 2FA on your 1Password account is a great security measure, it would not have prevented this specific attack. 2FA on your 1Password account helps protect against unauthorized access from new or untrusted devices—but since the attacker was logging in from the victim’s already-authorized device, 2FA wouldn’t have applied in this scenario.

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To guard against attacks that exploit compromised devices, you should:

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