I played with Passkeys last night and had less than a stellar experience.
I created a passkey on eBay, Best Buy and Kayak.
The Best Buy passkey I set up on my Mac in the Vivaldi browser. I gues...
I am aware that 1Password has been making substantial effort in supporting Passkeys with its service, but with Google making the bold move of 100% supporting Passkeys, I wanted to make use of it by having it part of my 1Password account. However, running between my iPhone on Safari, MacOS on Safari and Google Chrome Canary, I have only been prompted to secure the Passkey behind the browser or Apple Keychain. I am wondering where the progress with Passkeys lie with being able to store them within 1Password instead of having me scatter my Passkeys throughout web browsers.
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I played with Passkeys last night and had less than a stellar experience.
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I created a passkey on eBay, Best Buy and Kayak.
\n\n
The Best Buy passkey I set up on my Mac in the Vivaldi browser. I guess because I did it in Vivaldi; the passkey did not get saved to the Apple Keychain, and it did not sync to all my Apple devices. I then went on my iPhone and created a Passkey for Best Buy and that DID sync across all my devices. But when I went back to my Mac, it would not let me login using that Passkey in either Vivaldi or Safari.
\n\n
Next I went to eBay and created a passkey. I can see that Passkey in my iCloud keychain on multiple devices. But I can only use it on the device I originally created it. If I go to another device and try to login, I get prompted for my username. I type it in, and it always asks me for my password, never prompts me to use my passkey, regardless of browser.
\n\n
Kayak is even worse. It let me create a passkey. That passkey is definitely in my iCloud keychain. And I can login to kayak.com with it on iPhone and iPad, but only in the browser. The Kayak app wants to send me a \"magic link\" to login. On my Mac, Safari sees the Passkey, but when I try to use it to login, it just doesn't work. I get the popup. I click the button and the Kayak website takes me to the page where I type in my username.
\n\n
So, out of 3 passkeys I set up, all of them were a failure. Some takeaways:
\n\n\n
I don't want to store my passkeys in a vendor proprietary keychain. I need them stored a cross-platform third party app. I assume 1Password will do this for me.
\n
It's not good enough for websites to offer passkey support. Their apps need to have full passkey support also, and third party password managers need to have a hook into the OS to allow them to answer passkey requests. If I am forced to use Apple's Keychain on my iPhone/iPad to use Passkeys, then I will never use passkeys.
\n
I want to know why I have to enter a username for passkey authentication. Why isn't my username part of the passkey?
\n\n\n
And my question now for 1Password, how is 1Password going to deal with these issues and make passkeys a better experience?
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1Password Version: Not Provided \nExtension Version: Not Provided \nOS Version: Not Provided \nBrowser:_ Not Provided
I played with Passkeys last night and had less than a stellar experience.
\n\n
I created a passkey on eBay, Best Buy and Kayak.
\n\n
The Best Buy passkey I set up on my Mac in the Vivaldi browser. I guess because I did it in Vivaldi; the passkey did not get saved to the Apple Keychain, and it did not sync to all my Apple devices. I then went on my iPhone and created a Passkey for Best Buy and that DID sync across all my devices. But when I went back to my Mac, it would not let me login using that Passkey in either Vivaldi or Safari.
\n\n
Next I went to eBay and created a passkey. I can see that Passkey in my iCloud keychain on multiple devices. But I can only use it on the device I originally created it. If I go to another device and try to login, I get prompted for my username. I type it in, and it always asks me for my password, never prompts me to use my passkey, regardless of browser.
\n\n
Kayak is even worse. It let me create a passkey. That passkey is definitely in my iCloud keychain. And I can login to kayak.com with it on iPhone and iPad, but only in the browser. The Kayak app wants to send me a \"magic link\" to login. On my Mac, Safari sees the Passkey, but when I try to use it to login, it just doesn't work. I get the popup. I click the button and the Kayak website takes me to the page where I type in my username.
\n\n
So, out of 3 passkeys I set up, all of them were a failure. Some takeaways:
\n\n\n
I don't want to store my passkeys in a vendor proprietary keychain. I need them stored a cross-platform third party app. I assume 1Password will do this for me.
\n
It's not good enough for websites to offer passkey support. Their apps need to have full passkey support also, and third party password managers need to have a hook into the OS to allow them to answer passkey requests. If I am forced to use Apple's Keychain on my iPhone/iPad to use Passkeys, then I will never use passkeys.
\n
I want to know why I have to enter a username for passkey authentication. Why isn't my username part of the passkey?
\n\n\n
And my question now for 1Password, how is 1Password going to deal with these issues and make passkeys a better experience?
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I am aware that 1Password has been making substantial effort in supporting Passkeys with its service, but with Google making the bold move of 100% supporting Passkeys, I wanted to make use of it by having it part of my 1Password account. However, running between my iPhone on Safari, MacOS on Safari and Google Chrome Canary, I have only been prompted to secure the Passkey behind the browser or Apple Keychain. I am wondering where the progress with Passkeys lie with being able to store them within 1Password instead of having me scatter my Passkeys throughout web browsers.
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I am aware that 1Password has been making substantial effort in supporting Passkeys with its service, but with Google making the bold move of 100% supporting Passkeys, I wanted to make use of it by having it part of my 1Password account. However, running between my iPhone on Safari, MacOS on Safari and Google Chrome Canary, I have only been prompted to secure the Passkey behind the browser or Apple Keychain. I am wondering where the progress with Passkeys lie with being able to store them within 1Password instead of having me scatter my Passkeys throughout web browsers.
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