Thanks for weighing in and sharing this feedback AlmoEnd!
Based on the insightful input from conversations like this thread, we have revisited PIN unlock options with the 1Password mobile apps. There have been some particularly compelling points raised around accessibility and in other areas. Messaging to help highlight potential risks of PIN unlock will be included and there are limitations to how this feature can be used compared to biometric or password unlock.
To your second point, we're always working to keep the 1Password apps up to date with any OS changes and to make use of new options that become available to help ensure their security. The team here is also intent on iterating and optimizing on features like PIN unlock to find a balance between security and convenience for 1Password users. Thanks again!
+1 on @arbitraryreadwrite post. I'm sure it's easier to hijack a 4-digit pin than a 14-character pass phrase, although no difference when a keylogger is installed on your device. And I really don't like the thought that a photo of me can be used to circumvent biometrics on "certain" Android devices with cheaper cameras. So my vote is against the use of PIN unlock (there must have been a reason 1P dropped it from 7 to 8).
As far as
* "And how many are on Android 11 or higher, meaning the latter could be implemented using Keystore's AUTH_DEVICE_CREDENTIAL, delivering some real security?"
I would expect future revs of 1P 8 to be better aware of Android version, since Android support on 8 for version < 9 was dropped, and take advantage of any inbuilt security / authentication mechanisms that didn't exist a year ago when 8 was initially rolled out. Sounds simple, I know, unless you happen to be a developer...
+1 I don't want to use biometrics, and can't get the app to let me use a PIN, and I've typed my master password every few minutes for 3 days now and I'm slowly losing the will to live. I'm even considering going back to LastPass at this rate (not really but maybe). Please help.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts robert1p. This is the implementation of PIN unlock we're introducing at the moment but that doesn't close the door for new options or implementations in the future. I've passed along your comments to the team.
Thanks for your input! With the excellent and detailed feedback received here and in other channels we did revisit the PIN unlock feature. Check out the blog post MerryBit posted above for more details.
Hey there, I completely understand your frustration with not being able to use the fingerprint scanner or facial recognition due to your physical condition. It's important for software to be accessible to all users, and I hope 1Password takes note of the demand for the PIN to unlock feature.
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I don't use biometrics and entering my password every time is frustrating.
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I don't use biometrics and entering my password every time is frustrating.
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Thanks for weighing in and sharing this feedback AlmoEnd!
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Based on the insightful input from conversations like this thread, we have revisited PIN unlock options with the 1Password mobile apps. There have been some particularly compelling points raised around accessibility and in other areas. Messaging to help highlight potential risks of PIN unlock will be included and there are limitations to how this feature can be used compared to biometric or password unlock.
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To your second point, we're always working to keep the 1Password apps up to date with any OS changes and to make use of new options that become available to help ensure their security. The team here is also intent on iterating and optimizing on features like PIN unlock to find a balance between security and convenience for 1Password users. Thanks again!
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+1 on @arbitraryreadwrite post. I'm sure it's easier to hijack a 4-digit pin than a 14-character pass phrase, although no difference when a keylogger is installed on your device. And I really don't like the thought that a photo of me can be used to circumvent biometrics on \"certain\" Android devices with cheaper cameras. So my vote is against the use of PIN unlock (there must have been a reason 1P dropped it from 7 to 8).
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As far as \n* \"And how many are on Android 11 or higher, meaning the latter could be implemented using Keystore's AUTH_DEVICE_CREDENTIAL, delivering some real security?\"
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I would expect future revs of 1P 8 to be better aware of Android version, since Android support on 8 for version < 9 was dropped, and take advantage of any inbuilt security / authentication mechanisms that didn't exist a year ago when 8 was initially rolled out. Sounds simple, I know, unless you happen to be a developer...
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Hey @me2023, as detailed in a https://blog.1password.com/better-more-useful-1password/ from earlier in the year, PIN unlock will be coming soon!
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+1 I don't want to use biometrics, and can't get the app to let me use a PIN, and I've typed my master password every few minutes for 3 days now and I'm slowly losing the will to live. I'm even considering going back to LastPass at this rate (not really but maybe). Please help.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts robert1p. This is the implementation of PIN unlock we're introducing at the moment but that doesn't close the door for new options or implementations in the future. I've passed along your comments to the team.
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\"Soon, you’ll have the ability to use your device PIN code or pattern to unlock 1Password.\"
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Too bad it will be the device PIN. My preference would have been to support a unique 1Password PIN that is different from the device PIN.
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Thanks for your input! With the excellent and detailed feedback received here and in other channels we did revisit the PIN unlock feature. Check out the blog post MerryBit posted above for more details.
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Hey there, I completely understand your frustration with not being able to use the fingerprint scanner or facial recognition due to your physical condition. It's important for software to be accessible to all users, and I hope 1Password takes note of the demand for the PIN to unlock feature.
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Thanks for sharing that MerryBit! That is correct, PIN unlock will be coming in the not-so-distant future to the mobile apps!
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Thanks again for everyone's input on this.
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PIN unlock is coming soon: https://blog.1password.com/better-more-useful-1password/
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