Having spent days toiling with 1Password 8, I've had no other choice than to revert to using 1Password 7 ...and after lauching Mini with my usual keyboard shortcut (double-tap right cmd) it's even mo...
Former Member
4 years ago
this! exactly this! i'm happy to pay for professional services and we have recommended 1Password to all customers because it was a good product and service.
The other day a customer who we just got to use a password manager (1password) installed v8 and it was embarrasing to me that i have recommended them 1Password. So problematic and unusable it has become. The client has asked to recommend anything else than 1password.
Its the end of an era.. Owning to the fact that v8 is multi platform and has so many important feature missing, they wont be able to get it done anytime soon. And this assuming that they care and have any interest in adding v7 features.
Yes v8 has some fancy new features and they might establish a new user base, perhaps big corporations, while others will be content with using v7 that wont be maintained (the cost of maintaining multiple versions might not be feasible or shareholder friendly).
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Having spent days toiling with 1Password 8, I've had no other choice than to revert to using 1Password 7 ...and after lauching Mini with my usual keyboard shortcut (double-tap right cmd) it's even more glaringly obvious that Mini offers superior productivity.
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In 1Password 8, Quick Search is not an adequate replacement for Mini as search suggestions are muddled by comparison and the intuitive urge to click on a entry does not display its details, but rather opens a webpage, autofills and submits automatically whether I want it to or not. This causes serious issues where autosubmit breaks 'remember me' selection, capcha dialogues or fills in a marketing email request accidently. It is also unnecessarily convoluted having to open seperate windows for each listed item just to browse details which were easily visible in Mini.
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In Safari, one gets what is the nearest approximation to Mini in 1Password 8, however, its location seems to be tied to the toolbar button and it does not resize. More importantly, the disproportionate size of items in the list and its fixed column width means that most items have truncated names making it difficult to distinguish similar names/accounts.
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In the main app it was frustrating to be unable to rearrange Sections in Edit Mode, but now one cannot reorder Sections or individual Fields, neither can one change field-type on-the-fly as requirements change. This is so fundermental to the productivity of 1Password or indeed any kind of database product that I cannot understand how this was not an issue for the designers, developers and beta-testers.
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I am genuinely reaching out to Agilebits to help me understand why so much essential functionality has been removed in the update to version 8.
Having spent days toiling with 1Password 8, I've had no other choice than to revert to using 1Password 7 ...and after lauching Mini with my usual keyboard shortcut (double-tap right cmd) it's even more glaringly obvious that Mini offers superior productivity.
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In 1Password 8, Quick Search is not an adequate replacement for Mini as search suggestions are muddled by comparison and the intuitive urge to click on a entry does not display its details, but rather opens a webpage, autofills and submits automatically whether I want it to or not. This causes serious issues where autosubmit breaks 'remember me' selection, capcha dialogues or fills in a marketing email request accidently. It is also unnecessarily convoluted having to open seperate windows for each listed item just to browse details which were easily visible in Mini.
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In Safari, one gets what is the nearest approximation to Mini in 1Password 8, however, its location seems to be tied to the toolbar button and it does not resize. More importantly, the disproportionate size of items in the list and its fixed column width means that most items have truncated names making it difficult to distinguish similar names/accounts.
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In the main app it was frustrating to be unable to rearrange Sections in Edit Mode, but now one cannot reorder Sections or individual Fields, neither can one change field-type on-the-fly as requirements change. This is so fundermental to the productivity of 1Password or indeed any kind of database product that I cannot understand how this was not an issue for the designers, developers and beta-testers.
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I am genuinely reaching out to Agilebits to help me understand why so much essential functionality has been removed in the update to version 8.
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this! exactly this! i'm happy to pay for professional services and we have recommended 1Password to all customers because it was a good product and service.
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The other day a customer who we just got to use a password manager (1password) installed v8 and it was embarrasing to me that i have recommended them 1Password. So problematic and unusable it has become. The client has asked to recommend anything else than 1password.
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Its the end of an era.. Owning to the fact that v8 is multi platform and has so many important feature missing, they wont be able to get it done anytime soon. And this assuming that they care and have any interest in adding v7 features.
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Yes v8 has some fancy new features and they might establish a new user base, perhaps big corporations, while others will be content with using v7 that wont be maintained (the cost of maintaining multiple versions might not be feasible or shareholder friendly).
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this! exactly this! i'm happy to pay for professional services and we have recommended 1Password to all customers because it was a good product and service.
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The other day a customer who we just got to use a password manager (1password) installed v8 and it was embarrasing to me that i have recommended them 1Password. So problematic and unusable it has become. The client has asked to recommend anything else than 1password.
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Its the end of an era.. Owning to the fact that v8 is multi platform and has so many important feature missing, they wont be able to get it done anytime soon. And this assuming that they care and have any interest in adding v7 features.
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Yes v8 has some fancy new features and they might establish a new user base, perhaps big corporations, while others will be content with using v7 that wont be maintained (the cost of maintaining multiple versions might not be feasible or shareholder friendly).
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