Having spent days toiling with 1Password 8, I've had no other choice than to revert to using 1Password 7 ...and after lauching Mini with my usual keyboard shortcut (double-tap right cmd) it's even mo...
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4 years ago
dgbeecher I appreciate your kind words. I'm still awaiting a response from Agilebits which is kind of disappointing given the title of the discussion, but perhaps they're trying to prove a point.
If they do not respond to the issues and complaints regarding 1Password 8 at least in development terms, and more specifically, if they forcibly cripple 1Password 7 by pulling future compatbility updates, then I fear that for all the recent investment interest there is going to be an exodus of customers — particularly those that have previously evangelised 1Password like myself and are committed to supporting less tech-savvy friends and family in the security of their online activity.
For now, one must hope that in return for our subscription payments, things don't get any worse.
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Having spent days toiling with 1Password 8, I've had no other choice than to revert to using 1Password 7 ...and after lauching Mini with my usual keyboard shortcut (double-tap right cmd) it's even more glaringly obvious that Mini offers superior productivity.
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In 1Password 8, Quick Search is not an adequate replacement for Mini as search suggestions are muddled by comparison and the intuitive urge to click on a entry does not display its details, but rather opens a webpage, autofills and submits automatically whether I want it to or not. This causes serious issues where autosubmit breaks 'remember me' selection, capcha dialogues or fills in a marketing email request accidently. It is also unnecessarily convoluted having to open seperate windows for each listed item just to browse details which were easily visible in Mini.
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In Safari, one gets what is the nearest approximation to Mini in 1Password 8, however, its location seems to be tied to the toolbar button and it does not resize. More importantly, the disproportionate size of items in the list and its fixed column width means that most items have truncated names making it difficult to distinguish similar names/accounts.
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In the main app it was frustrating to be unable to rearrange Sections in Edit Mode, but now one cannot reorder Sections or individual Fields, neither can one change field-type on-the-fly as requirements change. This is so fundermental to the productivity of 1Password or indeed any kind of database product that I cannot understand how this was not an issue for the designers, developers and beta-testers.
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I am genuinely reaching out to Agilebits to help me understand why so much essential functionality has been removed in the update to version 8.
Having spent days toiling with 1Password 8, I've had no other choice than to revert to using 1Password 7 ...and after lauching Mini with my usual keyboard shortcut (double-tap right cmd) it's even more glaringly obvious that Mini offers superior productivity.
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In 1Password 8, Quick Search is not an adequate replacement for Mini as search suggestions are muddled by comparison and the intuitive urge to click on a entry does not display its details, but rather opens a webpage, autofills and submits automatically whether I want it to or not. This causes serious issues where autosubmit breaks 'remember me' selection, capcha dialogues or fills in a marketing email request accidently. It is also unnecessarily convoluted having to open seperate windows for each listed item just to browse details which were easily visible in Mini.
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In Safari, one gets what is the nearest approximation to Mini in 1Password 8, however, its location seems to be tied to the toolbar button and it does not resize. More importantly, the disproportionate size of items in the list and its fixed column width means that most items have truncated names making it difficult to distinguish similar names/accounts.
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In the main app it was frustrating to be unable to rearrange Sections in Edit Mode, but now one cannot reorder Sections or individual Fields, neither can one change field-type on-the-fly as requirements change. This is so fundermental to the productivity of 1Password or indeed any kind of database product that I cannot understand how this was not an issue for the designers, developers and beta-testers.
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I am genuinely reaching out to Agilebits to help me understand why so much essential functionality has been removed in the update to version 8.
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dgbeecher I appreciate your kind words. I'm still awaiting a response from Agilebits which is kind of disappointing given the title of the discussion, but perhaps they're trying to prove a point.
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If they do not respond to the issues and complaints regarding 1Password 8 at least in development terms, and more specifically, if they forcibly cripple 1Password 7 by pulling future compatbility updates, then I fear that for all the recent investment interest there is going to be an exodus of customers — particularly those that have previously evangelised 1Password like myself and are committed to supporting less tech-savvy friends and family in the security of their online activity.
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For now, one must hope that in return for our subscription payments, things don't get any worse.
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I appreciate your kind words. I'm still awaiting a response from Agilebits which is kind of disappointing given the title of the discussion, but perhaps they're trying to prove a point.
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If they do not respond to the issues and complaints regarding 1Password 8 at least in development terms, and more specifically, if they forcibly cripple 1Password 7 by pulling future compatbility updates, then I fear that for all the recent investment interest there is going to be an exodus of customers — particularly those that have previously evangelised 1Password like myself and are committed to supporting less tech-savvy friends and family in the security of their online activity.
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