Having spent days toiling with 1Password 8, I've had no other choice than to revert to using 1Password 7 ...and after lauching Mini with my usual keyboard shortcut (double-tap right cmd) it's even mo...
Anonymous
4 years ago
notnotjake I have Mini activated with a double-tap shortcut and its so quick. The only time I need to use the full app is for my own 'housekeeping' and admin of family members. I've also developed a proprietary solution for safely handling the 1P Master Password as well as system, volume and application usernames/passwords.
It's been suggested (by dteare I believe) that one can wrangle a Mini experience from the main app in 1Password 8 by hiding the sidebar and adjusting various view options, but one loses persistence — the productivty in 1Password 7 comes from Mini and the Main app retaining their respective states when switching between them, and between sessions generally.
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can someone at Agilebits explain ?","id":"message:101378","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":13,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:-1"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:1password"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:101378"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:101378"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":" Having spent days toiling with 1Password 8, I've had no other choice than to revert to using 1Password 7 ...and after lauching Mini with my usual keyboard shortcut (double-tap right cmd) it's even mo...","body@stringLength":"1914","rawBody":"
Having spent days toiling with 1Password 8, I've had no other choice than to revert to using 1Password 7 ...and after lauching Mini with my usual keyboard shortcut (double-tap right cmd) it's even more glaringly obvious that Mini offers superior productivity.
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In 1Password 8, Quick Search is not an adequate replacement for Mini as search suggestions are muddled by comparison and the intuitive urge to click on a entry does not display its details, but rather opens a webpage, autofills and submits automatically whether I want it to or not. This causes serious issues where autosubmit breaks 'remember me' selection, capcha dialogues or fills in a marketing email request accidently. It is also unnecessarily convoluted having to open seperate windows for each listed item just to browse details which were easily visible in Mini.
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In Safari, one gets what is the nearest approximation to Mini in 1Password 8, however, its location seems to be tied to the toolbar button and it does not resize. More importantly, the disproportionate size of items in the list and its fixed column width means that most items have truncated names making it difficult to distinguish similar names/accounts.
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In the main app it was frustrating to be unable to rearrange Sections in Edit Mode, but now one cannot reorder Sections or individual Fields, neither can one change field-type on-the-fly as requirements change. This is so fundermental to the productivity of 1Password or indeed any kind of database product that I cannot understand how this was not an issue for the designers, developers and beta-testers.
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I am genuinely reaching out to Agilebits to help me understand why so much essential functionality has been removed in the update to version 8.
Having spent days toiling with 1Password 8, I've had no other choice than to revert to using 1Password 7 ...and after lauching Mini with my usual keyboard shortcut (double-tap right cmd) it's even more glaringly obvious that Mini offers superior productivity.
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In 1Password 8, Quick Search is not an adequate replacement for Mini as search suggestions are muddled by comparison and the intuitive urge to click on a entry does not display its details, but rather opens a webpage, autofills and submits automatically whether I want it to or not. This causes serious issues where autosubmit breaks 'remember me' selection, capcha dialogues or fills in a marketing email request accidently. It is also unnecessarily convoluted having to open seperate windows for each listed item just to browse details which were easily visible in Mini.
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In Safari, one gets what is the nearest approximation to Mini in 1Password 8, however, its location seems to be tied to the toolbar button and it does not resize. More importantly, the disproportionate size of items in the list and its fixed column width means that most items have truncated names making it difficult to distinguish similar names/accounts.
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In the main app it was frustrating to be unable to rearrange Sections in Edit Mode, but now one cannot reorder Sections or individual Fields, neither can one change field-type on-the-fly as requirements change. This is so fundermental to the productivity of 1Password or indeed any kind of database product that I cannot understand how this was not an issue for the designers, developers and beta-testers.
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I am genuinely reaching out to Agilebits to help me understand why so much essential functionality has been removed in the update to version 8.
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notnotjake I have Mini activated with a double-tap shortcut and its so quick. The only time I need to use the full app is for my own 'housekeeping' and admin of family members. I've also developed a proprietary solution for safely handling the 1P Master Password as well as system, volume and application usernames/passwords.
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It's been suggested (by dteare I believe) that one can wrangle a Mini experience from the main app in 1Password 8 by hiding the sidebar and adjusting various view options, but one loses persistence — the productivty in 1Password 7 comes from Mini and the Main app retaining their respective states when switching between them, and between sessions generally.
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I have Mini activated with a double-tap shortcut and its so quick. The only time I need to use the full app is for my own 'housekeeping' and admin of family members. I've also developed a proprietary solution for safely handling the 1P Master Password as well as system, volume and application usernames/passwords.
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