1P8 Password Generator Strength Good versus Fantastic
1Password is using different meters for the Password Generator versus once they're made, which is confusing and annoying as I want all my passwords to be Fantastic as long as the site supports it. Please use the same meter for the generator that you're already using once they're made. I have the same issue on the Windows desktop app and Android. The strength meter is important to help users provide stronger passwords, as discussed in https://1password.community/discussion/19507/understanding-password-strength-meters and in https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/does-my-password-go-up-to-eleven-the-impact-of-password-meters-on-password-selection/
You can see here the strength meter is full green. I tested increasing characters to 100, and the strength bar stayed full green, no change.
However after the credential has been saved, 1Password tells me it's only Good, not Fantastic.
I'm confused why you have two different rating system UIs in the first place. Imo the generator should show exactly the same info as it'll show once saved, maybe like this:
1Password Version: 8.8.0 / 8.9.2 Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: Win10 / Android 12
Browser:_ Not Provided Referrer: forum-search:https://1password.community/search?Search=generator
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現状の1Passwordプロダクトにおける日本語翻訳は、悪意ある詐欺メールの文面に類似しており、1Passwordプロダクトの価値を著しく損ねるのみならず、1Passwordプロダクト自体が悪意ある詐欺的行為やプロダクトと見分けがつかないという、深刻な事態が現在進行形で進んでいるように見受けられます。 \n一例を挙げますが、Windows版、Firefox Add-on版、Android版との間で、同じ文言のはずの箇所（例えば「Terms of service」など）が全く異なる語で表記される[*1]、体言止めと用言止めが混在する[*2]、「だ・である」調と「です・ます」調が混在する[*3]、全く意味が通らない翻訳が指摘しきれないほど多数ある[*4]など、少なくとも日本語ローカライゼーションを実施するための環境が整っていないように見えます。
拙訳(My translation)： \nI am very sorry, but I propose to remove all Japanese translations in the current 1Password product.
\n\n
The Japanese translation quality of the 1Password product is far from being good, even by flattery, and it seems that it does not meet the quality required for the paid product at all. \nIf the quality is simply low, I think we can give feedback on what needs to be fixed and improve the quality. However, I don't think that is appropriate for the current 1Password product.
\n\n
The Japanese translation of the current 1Password product is similar to the wording of malicious fraudulent emails, which not only significantly diminishes the value of the 1Password product, but also appears to be an ongoing serious situation in which the 1Password product itself is indistinguishable from malicious fraudulent actions or products. \nFor example, between Windows, Firefox Add-on, and Android versions, there is different words for what should be the same phrase (for example, \"Terms of service\"[*1]), mixtured phrases not to be mixture[*2][*3], and there are too many translations that don't make sense at all to point out[*4]. It seems that at least the environment for implementing Japanese localization is not in place.
\n\n
I believe that letting this situation continue for another more years and waiting for the community's goodwill to develop a translation could cause further serious damage to the 1Password brand in Japan and would not be in the best interest of users of 1Password products in Japan. \nI hereby submit that the quality of Japanese translation in the current 1Password product is so problematic that I am forced to make such a proposal, and that it is time to seek a fundamental solution.
現状の1Passwordプロダクトにおける日本語翻訳は、悪意ある詐欺メールの文面に類似しており、1Passwordプロダクトの価値を著しく損ねるのみならず、1Passwordプロダクト自体が悪意ある詐欺的行為やプロダクトと見分けがつかないという、深刻な事態が現在進行形で進んでいるように見受けられます。 \n一例を挙げますが、Windows版、Firefox Add-on版、Android版との間で、同じ文言のはずの箇所（例えば「Terms of service」など）が全く異なる語で表記される[*1]、体言止めと用言止めが混在する[*2]、「だ・である」調と「です・ます」調が混在する[*3]、全く意味が通らない翻訳が指摘しきれないほど多数ある[*4]など、少なくとも日本語ローカライゼーションを実施するための環境が整っていないように見えます。
拙訳(My translation)： \nI am very sorry, but I propose to remove all Japanese translations in the current 1Password product.
\n\n
The Japanese translation quality of the 1Password product is far from being good, even by flattery, and it seems that it does not meet the quality required for the paid product at all. \nIf the quality is simply low, I think we can give feedback on what needs to be fixed and improve the quality. However, I don't think that is appropriate for the current 1Password product.
\n\n
The Japanese translation of the current 1Password product is similar to the wording of malicious fraudulent emails, which not only significantly diminishes the value of the 1Password product, but also appears to be an ongoing serious situation in which the 1Password product itself is indistinguishable from malicious fraudulent actions or products. \nFor example, between Windows, Firefox Add-on, and Android versions, there is different words for what should be the same phrase (for example, \"Terms of service\"[*1]), mixtured phrases not to be mixture[*2][*3], and there are too many translations that don't make sense at all to point out[*4]. It seems that at least the environment for implementing Japanese localization is not in place.
\n\n
I believe that letting this situation continue for another more years and waiting for the community's goodwill to develop a translation could cause further serious damage to the 1Password brand in Japan and would not be in the best interest of users of 1Password products in Japan. \nI hereby submit that the quality of Japanese translation in the current 1Password product is so problematic that I am forced to make such a proposal, and that it is time to seek a fundamental solution.
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I'm very happy that the Japanese language has finally been implemented. Thank you very much. 😊 \nUnnatural translations are still present, but it would be better to recreate another topic.
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I confirm that the Japanese translation is selectable in version 8.8.0 (80800106) of the Nightly build. I greatly thank the many people worked to resolve this issue.🎉
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Hi ticksgt, as a matter of policy we can't share news about a feature before it's released, but this is an ongoing area of focus for us here. I promise we haven't forgotten about Japanese support, and we'll share news about it when it's ready. We want to make sure it's up to the appropriate standard, and are looking forward to when we can post an update about it!
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It has been four months since the Japanese translation was removed, how is the progress?
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Looking at the architecture diagram uploaded, I thought it was ideal as an architecture.
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I would like to continue this year's subscription in the hope that what is actually translated through Crowdin will reach production quality.
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@testdata, You are correct, that is the case.
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Thank you, @testdata. We are looking forward to improving this translation. Thank you for your feedback on this matter! 😀
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Thank you for response, @James.Dressel_1P.
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I looked the architecture diagram shown. I understood that the string resources to be translated are aggregated in the Backend (core) View Model. If that's the case, I think it will fundamentally solve one of the major problems in the current Japanese translation. I deeply appreciate that 1Password's engineers are working on issues related to translation.
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And I hope that we can find a fundamental solution to the problem of the quality of translations.
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@testdata,
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I just wanted to provide you with an update. We have removed the Japanese translation from our current beta release, and we are exploring ways to bring back an improved translation.
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Thank you for response, @Savanni. and Thank you for letting me know that 1Password8 clients are built based on Electron, so applications containing string resources are shared across platforms and architecture.
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I hope that the unify of translation string resources, across platform, architecture, or underlying technology, will spread to Android applications, Firefox add-ons, etc.
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The same set of translated strings are currently used on our desktop clients and browser extensions. In the future, translated strings will be shared across all platforms. To add a bit of nuance, we have a shared \"core\" built in Rust. The core handles localization, and passes strings to Electron for rendering on our desktop clients. The browser extensions currently also use this Rust \"core\", and so share the translated strings with the Desktop clients. Next year we will release Android and iOS apps that use the same \"core\". More info on the architecture.
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The release cycle for the browser extensions is different from the desktop clients. As an example, I expect there will be at least one more release of the Firefox add-on with the current Japanese translations.
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Thank you for response, @Savanni. and Thank you for letting me know that 1Password8 clients are built based on Electron, so applications containing string resources are shared across platforms and architecture.
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I hope that the unify of translation string resources, across platform, architecture, or underlying technology, will spread to Android applications, Firefox add-ons, etc.
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