Can not seem to find answers:
What is the difference between Smart Password and Random Password?
Why is the Smart Password limited to 19 characters?
Which is recommended?
Thanks - Ben ...
THat was a PIA, so I thought, 'well, what are the changes that a password change will be unsuccessful?'. Apparently, the chances are high. WIthin 10 minutes, I had two password changes not go as expected.
This behavior was mentioned in the past (for at least a year, if not longer), it's a topic that comes up every once in a while, and 1Password is aware of users having trouble with the current behavior. However, it's not sure if it's intended behavior due to reasons unexplained (and the issue you're running into has to be endured) or if it's a thing 1Password is actually going to change (and it just takes its time).
For my part, I consider the current behavior one of the very few but very annoying flaws in 1Password that's probably not going away, and that other password managers with browser integration don't have. It would probably be less annoying if there was a technical reason mentioned, but I don't remember a reason was posted beyond "it's the design".
For the time being, you can use the password history to copy a replaced password and paste it back as current password if the update on the website fails. The requirement to manually do this on failed updates is what I mean with "annoying". It's also a security flaw, because it involves the clipboard. However, you don't need to initiate the "lost password" recovery of the website - look into the password history of your login item for all the previous passwords.
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I found this topic posted in two other places, but one was in regard to 1password X & the resolution was that it was intended in that version. The other version the OP never responded to questions from 1password, so I'm posting a separate post.
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I am new to 1password & so far, I'm really liking it except for changing passwords. I was a LP user & am switching over to 1password. I plan on changing all my passwords (which will be a lengthy process), but I've noticed when I'm on a site & go to the settings area to change my password, 1password prompts me to enter my password (in current password box). When I move to the New password, it prompts me to use the suggested generated password, which is great. The problem is that it then wants me to save the suggested generated password BEFORE it's actually saved on the site. If I decline, it does not prompt me to save the generated password after its changed.
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I was going through the trouble of doing a lot of copying & pasting, so that I have the new password saved in a place other than 1password & not updating it in 1password until I could confirm the password was successfully changed on the site. THat was a PIA, so I thought, 'well, what are the changes that a password change will be unsuccessful?'. Apparently, the chances are high. WIthin 10 minutes, I had two password changes not go as expected. For one site, the site went down right after I clicked to save the new password in 1password, but before I had clicked submit on the form. In the second situation, it didn't accept my password because there were too many characters (the site did not list their password requirements so there's no way to know on some sites when this might happen). In both cases, I had to reset my password with the Forgot Password option because 1password saved the new password & I had no access to the old password.
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Is this intended? If not, is there a fix? If it is intended, can I put in a feature request for it to prompt _after _the password change/password entry, if the password you submit is different than the one in 1password? I've noticed that it doesn't seem to be specific to password changes. If I enter a password other than what is saved in 1P, it doesn't prompt me to save the used credentials after I submit them (regardless of whether I'm entering them into a log in form or a change password form).
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Everything else about 1P, I love. This is my only complaint. Thanks! P.S.: I'm using the browser extension in Firefox, but I've tried in Chrome also, with the same results.
I found this topic posted in two other places, but one was in regard to 1password X & the resolution was that it was intended in that version. The other version the OP never responded to questions from 1password, so I'm posting a separate post.
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I am new to 1password & so far, I'm really liking it except for changing passwords. I was a LP user & am switching over to 1password. I plan on changing all my passwords (which will be a lengthy process), but I've noticed when I'm on a site & go to the settings area to change my password, 1password prompts me to enter my password (in current password box). When I move to the New password, it prompts me to use the suggested generated password, which is great. The problem is that it then wants me to save the suggested generated password BEFORE it's actually saved on the site. If I decline, it does not prompt me to save the generated password after its changed.
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I was going through the trouble of doing a lot of copying & pasting, so that I have the new password saved in a place other than 1password & not updating it in 1password until I could confirm the password was successfully changed on the site. THat was a PIA, so I thought, 'well, what are the changes that a password change will be unsuccessful?'. Apparently, the chances are high. WIthin 10 minutes, I had two password changes not go as expected. For one site, the site went down right after I clicked to save the new password in 1password, but before I had clicked submit on the form. In the second situation, it didn't accept my password because there were too many characters (the site did not list their password requirements so there's no way to know on some sites when this might happen). In both cases, I had to reset my password with the Forgot Password option because 1password saved the new password & I had no access to the old password.
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Is this intended? If not, is there a fix? If it is intended, can I put in a feature request for it to prompt _after _the password change/password entry, if the password you submit is different than the one in 1password? I've noticed that it doesn't seem to be specific to password changes. If I enter a password other than what is saved in 1P, it doesn't prompt me to save the used credentials after I submit them (regardless of whether I'm entering them into a log in form or a change password form).
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Everything else about 1P, I love. This is my only complaint. Thanks! P.S.: I'm using the browser extension in Firefox, but I've tried in Chrome also, with the same results.
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@FutureOfPass
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THat was a PIA, so I thought, 'well, what are the changes that a password change will be unsuccessful?'. Apparently, the chances are high. WIthin 10 minutes, I had two password changes not go as expected.
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This behavior was mentioned in the past (for at least a year, if not longer), it's a topic that comes up every once in a while, and 1Password is aware of users having trouble with the current behavior. However, it's not sure if it's intended behavior due to reasons unexplained (and the issue you're running into has to be endured) or if it's a thing 1Password is actually going to change (and it just takes its time).
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For my part, I consider the current behavior one of the very few but very annoying flaws in 1Password that's probably not going away, and that other password managers with browser integration don't have. It would probably be less annoying if there was a technical reason mentioned, but I don't remember a reason was posted beyond \"it's the design\".
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For the time being, you can use the password history to copy a replaced password and paste it back as current password if the update on the website fails. The requirement to manually do this on failed updates is what I mean with \"annoying\". It's also a security flaw, because it involves the clipboard. However, you don't need to initiate the \"lost password\" recovery of the website - look into the password history of your login item for all the previous passwords.
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@FutureOfPass
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THat was a PIA, so I thought, 'well, what are the changes that a password change will be unsuccessful?'. Apparently, the chances are high. WIthin 10 minutes, I had two password changes not go as expected.
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This behavior was mentioned in the past (for at least a year, if not longer), it's a topic that comes up every once in a while, and 1Password is aware of users having trouble with the current behavior. However, it's not sure if it's intended behavior due to reasons unexplained (and the issue you're running into has to be endured) or if it's a thing 1Password is actually going to change (and it just takes its time).
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For my part, I consider the current behavior one of the very few but very annoying flaws in 1Password that's probably not going away, and that other password managers with browser integration don't have. It would probably be less annoying if there was a technical reason mentioned, but I don't remember a reason was posted beyond \"it's the design\".
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For the time being, you can use the password history to copy a replaced password and paste it back as current password if the update on the website fails. The requirement to manually do this on failed updates is what I mean with \"annoying\". It's also a security flaw, because it involves the clipboard. However, you don't need to initiate the \"lost password\" recovery of the website - look into the password history of your login item for all the previous passwords.
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