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Former Member
5 years agoTwo accounts - now needs two different passwords every time you login?
With the old version, I was able to have a personal account and a business account. Once I connected them, I only had to use my personal password going forward. Now it looks like I have to enter a password for each account every time I restart my computer?
Is there an option to go back to how it used to deal with accounts? Or am I missing somenting?
65 Replies
- fieldsnyNew Contributor
"On Mac, Touch ID or Apple Watch unlock is able to unlock all 1Password accounts that have been unlocked with an account password (even if they're different), and similarly on Windows, Windows Hello is able to do that as well. We're pretty thrilled with what the new unlock behavior brings to the table, so it's unlikely the old unlock behavior will make a return, even as an option."
There are still millions of Macs out there that don't support this.
- fieldsnyNew Contributor
"The previous behavior unlocked using the first 1Password account added to the 1Password app, and if your accounts were added in a different order across your devices, you'd end up with different unlock passwords and not know why." is easily solved by letting the user choose which account should unlock the others.
- fieldsnyNew Contributor
"Additionally, because each account password only unlocks the account(s) it goes with, it allows for administrators to ensure that their password policies are being followed." is at counter purposes with the recommendation to use the same master password for each account.
- fieldsnyNew Contributor
A few comments on this:
- I don't even know the master passwords for some of my subsidiary accounts... because I store them in 1Password. They're 30 character random strings for increased security. Now every time I need to enter one of them, I need to remember to copy it to the clipboard (less secure) before bringing up the unlock screen (because there's no way to access passwords in an unlocked vault while that dialog is up, and then paste it.
- Even if I set them all to the same (weaker) password, typing the same password over and over again to unlock them again every 10 minutes is still more of a hassle, not less. Yes, there are still people using Macs that can't authenticate with Apple Watch / Touch ID.
- We’ve all collectively spent decades trying to get people to not reuse passwords. This really compromises that effort.
- Jack_P_1P
1Password Team
Hey @Xacto:
Thanks for being with us for so long! This new behavior has a few benefits. If you're using multiple unique account passwords, it helps ensure you don't forget them. With the old approach, it would have been possible to unlock 1Password for months without ever using your second account password, and potentially being locked out of your second account. Additionally, because each account password only unlocks the account(s) it goes with, it allows for administrators to ensure that their password policies are being followed. Finally, it allows for a more consistent experience. The previous behavior unlocked using the first 1Password account added to the 1Password app, and if your accounts were added in a different order across your devices, you'd end up with different unlock passwords and not know why.
On Mac, Touch ID or Apple Watch unlock is able to unlock all 1Password accounts that have been unlocked with an account password (even if they're different), and similarly on Windows, Windows Hello is able to do that as well. We're pretty thrilled with what the new unlock behavior brings to the table, so it's unlikely the old unlock behavior will make a return, even as an option.
Jack
- Former Member
I agree with not wanting all my employees to have access to my personal information, including investments and credit cards, for a workaround of using the same password (that seems like defeating the purpose of protection). My business has been using 1Password for years, and ever since the beta, I have started looking at other options. I would not complain if I did not love your product. Why break something that was not broken? Here is a great idea; give the user the capability to turn this option on or off as a preference item. Best of both worlds - happy customers around.
- Former Member
Not gonna lie, this creates some serious cognitive dissonance for me. I do understand the reasoning with the private key but I'm still not comfortable with my corporate vault having the same master pwd as my personal.
- 1P_Ben
1Password Team
Happy New Year @speed2001 :)
Ben
- Former Member
Sure you will... 1pass is vastly superior in everything else. Thanks again for the reply and I will keep an eye to when the functionality is available.
Happy New Year to you all
Speed - 1P_Ben
1Password Team
Thanks for the feedback @speed2001. I'm sorry to hear that's the outcome but hopefully we'll be able to win you back in the future. 🤞🏻
Ben