Thanks for your input! I've added your feedback to the discussions my colleagues mentioned above. We wouldn't be here without feedback from customers like you, so thank you again!
I have the same problem.
Our ISP's routers here in Greece fail easily.
Our ISP ships us a new one and the username and password is underneath you plug them in and they get the settings automatically.
It is hard to guess the password on them. I want a way to ignore them, so when I see there is a problem with the watchtower I know it is something serious and not my router passwords because over time I have become blind to the warnings. Also, some passwords that are for PPPoE get set by the ISP and can't be changed by the end-user.
Hi, I'd just to add to the desire to be able to exclude Watchtower warnings related for weak passwords, indeed I've some where I'm not able to use something as strong as I would like but if these populate the list in Watchtower it makes me kind a skip the list and that way I might miss an unintentionally weak password. So it would be very welcome to have the option as suggested above by Former Member: "The only viable way I see is the ability to manually flag a weak password as "risk accepted for weak password" and make it vanish from Watchtower if flagged as this. "
Thanks so much for sharing your perspective, Former Member! You raise a really good point - 1Password doesn't know the particulars or implications of the data it has stored (beyond locally comparing URLs against a compromised website database). It's because of these varied circumstances and use-cases that something like Watchtower warnings need to be well thought-out and, as Peter put it, "accurate, actionable, and salient". Thanks again for sharing! :smile:
I work for a worldwide company, and its worldwide company intranet, running with 10.x.y.y addresses, is operated with roughly the same security policy as you would have for internet hosts. With other words: it is mandatory hosts within the intranet must be as secure as if they were directly exposed to the internet. The intranet is considered only a bit less hostile than the internet itself, it' not considered as friendly and secure.
So passwords used within the private network range must be as strong as passwords that are used for internet hosts.
Another thing against excluding private network ranges from password checking: 1Password cannot know if a host is accessible from the internet with NAT or port forwarding. The same host you can connect to as 10.10.10.10 might be accessible from a public IP if this is configured on some NAT router exposed to the internet, so it's ok if weak passwords are reported.
The only viable way I see is the ability to manually flag a weak password as "risk accepted for weak password" and make it vanish from Watchtower if flagged as this. I assume such functionality has not been added until now, because some people would just flag all their weak passwords to make them going away as alert without actually realizing the risk. In my opinion, this is too much care and attempt to protect the user from himself.
This is an interesting idea, and it raises questions we care a lot about!
Regarding the network: should you be able to exclude items that fall within a private IP space? What if an organization that uses similar private IP ranges has high security requirements, or operates on a zero-trust model? My feeling is that delineating that kind of thing in Watchtower specifically might do more harm than good.
However, I can see an argument for being able to disable Watchtower alerts for certain passwords you choose, though. For example, some websites actually (sigh) require weak passwords, and some devices require short PINs, which in all other contexts would be considered weak and something you want to change ASAP. What to do about this?
This is very much an ongoing conversation here. Maybe the best long-term answer is to allow a user to manually specify which alerts they want to disable, and for how long. Or maybe it's better not to allow that kind of option at all, because if someone's bank requires a weak password, 1Password can help by at least reminding you that that's a point of vulnerability.
Ultimately, we want the Watchtower alerts to be accurate, actionable, and salient - and we 100% welcome your input (and the community's) on what that might look like as we go forward.
Thanks for opening up this discussion. I'll be very interested to hear what more you and others here have to say on the topic!
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I have the Mac desktop app and Mac Safari extension time out linked to be 1 minute and the iOS app to auto lock immediately, for security yet the minimum auto lock time for the iOS version of the Safari extension seems to be 15 minutes. Is there a reason this minimum time is so long compared to all the others? Or why there's no consistency between all the apps and extensions?
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Especially on a mobile device 15 minutes seems way too long. If someone happens to snatch my phone out of my hand whilst it's unlocked all someone needs to do is keep the phone alive to gain access to every single password I've ever created. This seems like a massive security issue. Are there plans to reduce this lock out time? Ideally I'd like it to match the iOS auto fill feature and require biometric unlock every single time I want a password auto filled otherwise I'm just going to have to disable the iOS Safari extension, which would be a shame as it's otherwise excellent.
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I have the Mac desktop app and Mac Safari extension time out linked to be 1 minute and the iOS app to auto lock immediately, for security yet the minimum auto lock time for the iOS version of the Safari extension seems to be 15 minutes. Is there a reason this minimum time is so long compared to all the others? Or why there's no consistency between all the apps and extensions?
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Especially on a mobile device 15 minutes seems way too long. If someone happens to snatch my phone out of my hand whilst it's unlocked all someone needs to do is keep the phone alive to gain access to every single password I've ever created. This seems like a massive security issue. Are there plans to reduce this lock out time? Ideally I'd like it to match the iOS auto fill feature and require biometric unlock every single time I want a password auto filled otherwise I'm just going to have to disable the iOS Safari extension, which would be a shame as it's otherwise excellent.
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I believe that the \"Reauthorize After\" options were set with usability in mind so that you could use 1Password for Safari on iOS without being prompted to unlock 1Password constantly.
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The team is currently revisiting this feature and hope to release improvements in a future update. If the 15 minute time period doesn't work for you then, as a workaround for now, you can turn off 1Password for Safari and use Password AutoFill to fill and save logins from 1Password instead as it uses a different lock timer: Use 1Password to save logins and sign in to apps and websites on your iPhone and iPad
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Can someone of 1PW explain, why the auto-lock is at minimum of 15 minutes? Any real explanation?
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Thanks for taking the time to add your feedback bannanna01 - I've filed a feature request so that it can be seen by the relevant team.
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ref: PB-2F40897316
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I agree with jayhouse and dragon1, I feel like it’s an important security issue here. Would love to be able to set the auto-lock to „immediately” or a shorter period like 1 minute.
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Locking the vault manually is the only solution for now, but there is a big chance you will forget to do it at some point - leaving the vault wide open if someone manages to snatch your phone.
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Hi David,
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thanks for the feedback. That's very complicated.
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As this feature request is quite old from my side (from the beginning of bringing out the extension) can you tell, why you only have a min. of 15 minutes here?
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I don't have any news to share regarding this feature request, but I've gone ahead and shared your feedback with our Product team to take into consideration.
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In the meantime, you can manually https://support.1password.com/getting-started-safari-ios/#lock-1password using the following steps:
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Tap the puzzle icon in the Safari address bar.
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Tap 1Password.
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Tap the menu icon to the right of the search field.
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Tap Lock 1Password.
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Let me know if there's anything else I can help with!
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-David
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Any update on this? I cannot understand why standard setting is 1 hour and minimum 'only' 15 minutes.
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I would like to have it at least at 1 minute and/or the chance to lock it direct after usage.
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Why leave the door that much open?
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Or maybe a setting to lock the extension when locking the phone!
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I'll get a feature request before the team for the iOS extension to share the same lock settings. I'm afraid I do not know of any plans, but it's also entirely possible that something already exists and a team is working on it. That feature request is to ensure your voice is heard.
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