1Password dropdown masks macOS autofill for SMS verification codes
Many websites and services require verification with a code sent by text message. macOS has a nice feature that offers to auto-fill the code from the Messages app. Normally, it appears as a drop-do...
@Chippy_boy Well, my primary bank (and that's also the bank I work for with an IT outsourcer) asks for a 3 digit branch id, 9 digit account number, and a 6 character alphanumeric pin for online banking login. The pin cannot have more than 6 characters. Branch id and account number are not secret. This means my private important account is actually protected by a 6 character alphanumeric password. That's not really security.
The bank also offers a reasonably state of the art secure login with userid and long complex password. Would be the solution, however it's not possible to disable the branch+account+pin login after creating a userid login, so it stays unsecure!
I contacted their online banking support asked for state of the art pin lengths and characters, and for the possibility to disable the insecure pin login. It was declined and said there were some kind of internal measures and checks that will always make my login secure, albeit the short pin.
Actually, this bank has very strict internal security policy for the intranet accounts of their employees for more than 20 years. Personal accounts, state of the art password complexity rules, password length enforcement, and mandatory change every 60 or 90 days. Nothing to complain about.
About Yubikey: this is an additional thing to implement server side and to give customer support for. Since the existing password-only implementation works and is declared secure by corporate and legal auditors, there is no need for the bank to implement anything more. If the law mandate it, yes, but since it doesn't, no. Implementation+support costs money with no visible return, so it's not done. Refunds due to inferior security are probably less than the costs for a better implementation. Banks don't advertise with "we have the best login security". They advertise with their banking products instead.
Im in Safari, with the cursor on a user id or password field. 1PW shows me a bubble near that field offering to fill it in. This is good.
To finish the login the website asks me to supply a one-time code sent to my phone, or from an app such as Google Authenticator. 1PW incorrectly offers to fill in the password, The bubble now often obscures the field where I’m supposed to type it.
I want 1PW to understand that these 2FA responses are not something it can or should offer to help with. However, I don’t want to lose the valuable functionality for user ids and passwords.
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Feature request.
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How about doing something to limit the exposure of a secret word / phrase when asked for the nth and mth character. In some cases exposing the characters can be avoided entirely in others at least restricting the exposed information to the minimum would be ideal. Right now the easiest way of handling such things is viewing the whole 'password' in large text (which conveniently numbers the characters). Which is terrible, especially in public. In small text its less bad but doesn't number the characters so isn't really helpful.
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Being able to expose only the requested characters or 'copy nth character' would make such things at least not a complete 'fail'.
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How about doing something to limit the exposure of a secret word / phrase when asked for the nth and mth character. In some cases exposing the characters can be avoided entirely in others at least restricting the exposed information to the minimum would be ideal. Right now the easiest way of handling such things is viewing the whole 'password' in large text (which conveniently numbers the characters). Which is terrible, especially in public. In small text its less bad but doesn't number the characters so isn't really helpful.
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Being able to expose only the requested characters or 'copy nth character' would make such things at least not a complete 'fail'.
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@Chippy_boy Well, my primary bank (and that's also the bank I work for with an IT outsourcer) asks for a 3 digit branch id, 9 digit account number, and a 6 character alphanumeric pin for online banking login. The pin cannot have more than 6 characters. Branch id and account number are not secret. This means my private important account is actually protected by a 6 character alphanumeric password. That's not really security. \nThe bank also offers a reasonably state of the art secure login with userid and long complex password. Would be the solution, however it's not possible to disable the branch+account+pin login after creating a userid login, so it stays unsecure!
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I contacted their online banking support asked for state of the art pin lengths and characters, and for the possibility to disable the insecure pin login. It was declined and said there were some kind of internal measures and checks that will always make my login secure, albeit the short pin.
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Actually, this bank has very strict internal security policy for the intranet accounts of their employees for more than 20 years. Personal accounts, state of the art password complexity rules, password length enforcement, and mandatory change every 60 or 90 days. Nothing to complain about.
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About Yubikey: this is an additional thing to implement server side and to give customer support for. Since the existing password-only implementation works and is declared secure by corporate and legal auditors, there is no need for the bank to implement anything more. If the law mandate it, yes, but since it doesn't, no. Implementation+support costs money with no visible return, so it's not done. Refunds due to inferior security are probably less than the costs for a better implementation. Banks don't advertise with \"we have the best login security\". They advertise with their banking products instead.
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I stopped thinking about these issues.
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@Chippy_boy Well, my primary bank (and that's also the bank I work for with an IT outsourcer) asks for a 3 digit branch id, 9 digit account number, and a 6 character alphanumeric pin for online banking login. The pin cannot have more than 6 characters. Branch id and account number are not secret. This means my private important account is actually protected by a 6 character alphanumeric password. That's not really security. \nThe bank also offers a reasonably state of the art secure login with userid and long complex password. Would be the solution, however it's not possible to disable the branch+account+pin login after creating a userid login, so it stays unsecure!
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I contacted their online banking support asked for state of the art pin lengths and characters, and for the possibility to disable the insecure pin login. It was declined and said there were some kind of internal measures and checks that will always make my login secure, albeit the short pin.
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Actually, this bank has very strict internal security policy for the intranet accounts of their employees for more than 20 years. Personal accounts, state of the art password complexity rules, password length enforcement, and mandatory change every 60 or 90 days. Nothing to complain about.
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About Yubikey: this is an additional thing to implement server side and to give customer support for. Since the existing password-only implementation works and is declared secure by corporate and legal auditors, there is no need for the bank to implement anything more. If the law mandate it, yes, but since it doesn't, no. Implementation+support costs money with no visible return, so it's not done. Refunds due to inferior security are probably less than the costs for a better implementation. Banks don't advertise with \"we have the best login security\". They advertise with their banking products instead.
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I stopped thinking about these issues.
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