I opened 1Password just now and got a notification that the global shared vault in my family account was deleted. This was either due to a family member's mistake or a bug. While I figure out which, I have a couple thoughts to share:I wish that the account recovery permission were separate from vault management. I've designated a few people as family organizers so they can help with account recovery if needed. But I'd rather they not have the ability to delete vaults to guard against accidents.It's too bad there's no way to recover deleted vaults like there is with deleted items. Accidental vault deletion is catastrophic data loss. (Yes I know there's a stern warning confirmation before deleting a vault. But, assuming this case was due to a mistake, it wasn't enough to prevent it from happening.)

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Deleted vaults & organizer permissions

I opened 1Password just now and got a notification that the global shared vault in my family account was deleted. This was either due to a family member's mistake or a bug. While I figure out which, I have a couple thoughts to share:

I wish that the account recovery permission were separate from vault management. I've designated a few people as family organizers so they can help with account recovery if needed. But I'd rather they not have the ability to delete vaults to guard against accidents.
It's too bad there's no way to recover deleted vaults like there is with deleted items. Accidental vault deletion is catastrophic data loss. (Yes I know there's a stern warning confirmation before deleting a vault. But, assuming this case was due to a mistake, it wasn't enough to prevent it from happening.)

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1P_Tommy
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You might opt for generating a recovery code and sharing with them to guard against the other possibilities while still providing peace of mind. For me, I have both because of my fear of losing access e.g. My being incapacitated and my kids (adult) need access for legal reasons.

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  There are a lot of people of all ages and technical abilities in my family account. A few of us could generate and share a recovery code, but it's not a workable solution for most. Assisted recovery via an organizer is a great option that covers everyone.
  (Also as an update: it turns out that the shared vault was deleted on purpose and we've managed to sort things out. I still believe that more fine-grained vault management permissions as well as limited vault recovery would be helpful.)
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    I agree with you 100%. I hope this is something we can bring about in the future. I'll be right there at the first of the line with you.

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I wish that the account recovery permission were separate from vault management. I've designated a few people as family organizers so they can help with account recovery if needed. But I'd rather they not have the ability to delete vaults to guard against accidents.
It's too bad there's no way to recover deleted vaults like there is with deleted items. Accidental vault deletion is catastrophic data loss. (Yes I know there's a stern warning confirmation before deleting a vault. But, assuming this case was due to a mistake, it wasn't enough to prevent it from happening.)

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I wish that the account recovery permission were separate from vault management. I've designated a few people as family organizers so they can help with account recovery if needed. But I'd rather they not have the ability to delete vaults to guard against accidents.
It's too bad there's no way to recover deleted vaults like there is with deleted items. Accidental vault deletion is catastrophic data loss. (Yes I know there's a stern warning confirmation before deleting a vault. But, assuming this case was due to a mistake, it wasn't enough to prevent it from happening.)

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skatch

You might opt for generating a recovery code and sharing with them to guard against the other possibilities while still providing peace of mind. For me, I have both because of my fear of losing access e.g. My being incapacitated and my kids (adult) need access for legal reasons.

Generate and use recovery codes

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There are a lot of people of all ages and technical abilities in my family account. A few of us could generate and share a recovery code, but it's not a workable solution for most. Assisted recovery via an organizer is a great option that covers everyone.

(Also as an update: it turns out that the shared vault was deleted on purpose and we've managed to sort things out. I still believe that more fine-grained vault management permissions as well as limited vault recovery would be helpful.)

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I agree with you 100%. I hope this is something we can bring about in the future. I'll be right there at the first of the line with you.

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