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Manaburner
Super Contributor
2 years ago

Diceware word list in other languages

Hi,
I'm not quite sure where to put this, because I'd love to have this on all platforms.
I would appreciate having a word list for memorable passwords other than just English. I've found various discussions touching this topic, one of the more recent ones here and at one time, 1Password on Windows had this feature, but it seems it did not make it to the lastest version.

So, what are the odds for this to finally making it into 1Password?
If this can't make it into 1Password directly (as 1P has trouble finding a clean word list), how about allowing users to use their own wordlists?

1Password Version: 8.10.5
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  • Tertius's avatar
    Tertius
    Super Contributor
    3 days ago

    The dictionary is still mixed, but it's possible to retry clicking until you finally get a phrase that's memorable and German.

    For creating a new master password, I invested some minutes and perhaps 200 tries, but finally I got a totally absurd and ridiculous 4 word phrase I was able to memorize immediately because of its strangeness. So I can only say: "works fine for me". Don't use the first phrase you're offered, retry until you get a phrase not just random but also memorable to you.

    To validate I was really able to memorize this password, I saved it and checked every few days if I still remember it. After 2 weeks and still no amnesia, I finally changed my master password to it.

    • Manaburner's avatar
      Manaburner
      Super Contributor
      2 days ago

      Maybe it’s me but things like „try 200 times“ or investing a few minutes to get a diceware password is not something I expect from a premium product like 1Password. 
      This needs to be improved in my opinion 

      • Tertius's avatar
        Tertius
        Super Contributor
        2 days ago

        This depends on how you personally intend to use the diceware password. In its original meaning, t's meant to be a memorable password by the person to use. It's not intended for just being stored deep in the manager for some web login and being pulled by the browser extension for autofill. Instead, it's meant for you to remember and you're required to manually type in once in a while without the password manager's help. Such as your 1Password master password. Actually, that's the only diceware password I created. All 210 other passwords in my vaults were generated as random passwords. Not memorable.

        And to create a truly memorable password for me, I need several tries. Even if all 4 generated words are German, this doesn't mean this is a password memorable for me. They have to link into my brain, and they must be something I have no problems to learn by heart and never forget. They must create some silly meaning or association, otherwise I will fail to remember them in the long run. So multiple tries (I don't remember if it really was 200) are just unavoidable and no flaw within the generator.

        Keep in mind, if you ever happen to forget your master password, your account is lost.

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    Manaburner
    Super Contributor
    3 days ago

    Any news on this? I’ve seen German word lists when you change the app language to German, but this does not seem to work properly. When I generate, the word list still contains some English words