I currently use GrapheneOS without any google apps, after switching away from iOS because of Apples recent move toward reckless privacy practices. I consider a googled phone MUCH more privacy invasiv...
As someone starting to look at alternative Android distributions, this definitely interests me too.
Maybe a way to start would be to provide an app that might lack some things at first, to gauge demand for such an app, then work on them over time. I think many would just be happy to have the ability to access their vault first and foremost, and would understand that additional features would be brought in later. If we're going through the trouble to use a device with an alternate Android distribution, we're not going to be strangers to things being a little more bare-bones as a result of no Google integration.
Payment flow... require that a user have an existing subscription to start (most likely if one is using an alternative Android distribution and seeking this APK, they already have a subscription), or provide a link to the website to process the subscription payment. Simple way to start, could be filled out later with a more integrated flow if needed.
For other things that you use Google services for (QR, FIDO2, etc.)... Unless Google requires that you use their services to have your app in their Store (which would raise an alarm bell with me), you could change the Google Play app to use non-Google services to reduce differences. Google specifically has their services in order to make it harder to use an app in other non-Google Android environments. But getting away from Google means your app could also be available elsewhere, like Amazon's app store and Fire tablets (I'm pretty sure they don't have Google Play, but I've never used one so I can't say with certainty), in addition to alternative privacy/security Android distributions.
Updates to the app... Security and privacy-minded individuals are well aware of the need to ensure apps remain updated. If a new version is available, simply provide a direct link to the new APK to download via browser. Again, something that could be made more integrated later, but would allow a simple start to get things going.
Again, this wouldn't need to be a super-polished mirror of the Google Play app right out of the gate... just something to start would be a big step!
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I currently use GrapheneOS without any google apps, after switching away from iOS because of Apples recent move toward reckless privacy practices. I consider a googled phone MUCH more privacy invasive than iOS, but /e/ or grapheneOS to be much better than either.
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I was able to mostly switch to open source software, or the few closed source apps I use made their apk available directly. I was very surprised to find 1password only deploying via the play store, even though it has been requested before with mediocre responses here.
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For technical users, a direct download of the apk with sha256 sum to verify is the absolute best solution, and frankly the play store is unacceptable. I have been using 1password for years and have had no problems on any other device including linux, so it's a mystery why android is kept shut.
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I don't want to register my device with the play store either, as I've removed google completely from my life including google accounts. I don't want to be logged in anywhere and I'm sure many people are feeling the same after the last creepy moves by google and apple.
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I am dreading looking for an open source password manager just because of lack of android support. Is there any move toward providing an apk?
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I currently use GrapheneOS without any google apps, after switching away from iOS because of Apples recent move toward reckless privacy practices. I consider a googled phone MUCH more privacy invasive than iOS, but /e/ or grapheneOS to be much better than either.
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I was able to mostly switch to open source software, or the few closed source apps I use made their apk available directly. I was very surprised to find 1password only deploying via the play store, even though it has been requested before with mediocre responses here.
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For technical users, a direct download of the apk with sha256 sum to verify is the absolute best solution, and frankly the play store is unacceptable. I have been using 1password for years and have had no problems on any other device including linux, so it's a mystery why android is kept shut.
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I don't want to register my device with the play store either, as I've removed google completely from my life including google accounts. I don't want to be logged in anywhere and I'm sure many people are feeling the same after the last creepy moves by google and apple.
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I am dreading looking for an open source password manager just because of lack of android support. Is there any move toward providing an apk?
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1Password Version: Not Provided \nExtension Version: Not Provided \nOS Version: Not Provided
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As someone starting to look at alternative Android distributions, this definitely interests me too.
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Maybe a way to start would be to provide an app that might lack some things at first, to gauge demand for such an app, then work on them over time. I think many would just be happy to have the ability to access their vault first and foremost, and would understand that additional features would be brought in later. If we're going through the trouble to use a device with an alternate Android distribution, we're not going to be strangers to things being a little more bare-bones as a result of no Google integration.
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Payment flow... require that a user have an existing subscription to start (most likely if one is using an alternative Android distribution and seeking this APK, they already have a subscription), or provide a link to the website to process the subscription payment. Simple way to start, could be filled out later with a more integrated flow if needed.
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For other things that you use Google services for (QR, FIDO2, etc.)... Unless Google requires that you use their services to have your app in their Store (which would raise an alarm bell with me), you could change the Google Play app to use non-Google services to reduce differences. Google specifically has their services in order to make it harder to use an app in other non-Google Android environments. But getting away from Google means your app could also be available elsewhere, like Amazon's app store and Fire tablets (I'm pretty sure they don't have Google Play, but I've never used one so I can't say with certainty), in addition to alternative privacy/security Android distributions.
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Updates to the app... Security and privacy-minded individuals are well aware of the need to ensure apps remain updated. If a new version is available, simply provide a direct link to the new APK to download via browser. Again, something that could be made more integrated later, but would allow a simple start to get things going.
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Again, this wouldn't need to be a super-polished mirror of the Google Play app right out of the gate... just something to start would be a big step!
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As someone starting to look at alternative Android distributions, this definitely interests me too.
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Maybe a way to start would be to provide an app that might lack some things at first, to gauge demand for such an app, then work on them over time. I think many would just be happy to have the ability to access their vault first and foremost, and would understand that additional features would be brought in later. If we're going through the trouble to use a device with an alternate Android distribution, we're not going to be strangers to things being a little more bare-bones as a result of no Google integration.
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Payment flow... require that a user have an existing subscription to start (most likely if one is using an alternative Android distribution and seeking this APK, they already have a subscription), or provide a link to the website to process the subscription payment. Simple way to start, could be filled out later with a more integrated flow if needed.
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For other things that you use Google services for (QR, FIDO2, etc.)... Unless Google requires that you use their services to have your app in their Store (which would raise an alarm bell with me), you could change the Google Play app to use non-Google services to reduce differences. Google specifically has their services in order to make it harder to use an app in other non-Google Android environments. But getting away from Google means your app could also be available elsewhere, like Amazon's app store and Fire tablets (I'm pretty sure they don't have Google Play, but I've never used one so I can't say with certainty), in addition to alternative privacy/security Android distributions.
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Updates to the app... Security and privacy-minded individuals are well aware of the need to ensure apps remain updated. If a new version is available, simply provide a direct link to the new APK to download via browser. Again, something that could be made more integrated later, but would allow a simple start to get things going.
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Again, this wouldn't need to be a super-polished mirror of the Google Play app right out of the gate... just something to start would be a big step!
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