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Feature request: Unlock 1Password with a Yubikey

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Hi Dave --

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The reason I'd like to use a Yubikey+PIN, preferentially, vs. the other options you described, is that in my view it can be configured so that it is a more-secure means of authentication in a wider range of threat scenarios.

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I.e. TouchID is very secure, until a bad actor or law enforcement compels you to use TouchID to unlock something. As there is no PIN or password required this can be done against the fingerprint-owner's will, even when the owner is unconscious.

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Account password alone is reasonably secure, until a bad actor or LE uses keystroke loggers, hidden cameras, or even advanced keyboard audio analysis to intercept the password as you type it.

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AppleWatch may or may not be secure but it is exceedingly expensive, bulky, and difficult to keep \"backup units\" on-hand in case it is lost, damaged or stolen.

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With multiple YubiKeys configured, esp. the tiny form-factor Nano series, it is possible to authenticate BOTH with something you have (the device) and something you know (the PIN).

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Unlike the other methods you describe, it is much harder for a bad actor to compromise your means of authentication without you knowing. If the physical Yubikey is stolen or seized, without the PIN it cannot be used.

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If the PIN code is perhaps remotely compromised (via keyboard logging, video/audio keypress interception, etc,) the attacker still also must physically possess the Yubikey device to authenticate successfully.

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It is still possible for it to be compromised but it requires hurdling of _both _ the \"something you know\" and \"something you have\" barriers.

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Additionally and separate from the above concerns, with a physical token + PIN required, and multiple backup tokens configured & securely stored in obscure locations, it is possibly to self-enforce a no-access policy to the device by ditching or destroying any tokens in ones possession. In that case it is not even possible for an attacker to compel authentication/access, even under the worst forms of coercion.

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(But access could be restored at some later time, i.e. by retrieving a hidden/scattered backup token at a later date.)

Hello gosmond! 👋

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Thank you for the suggestion. Can you tell me a little more about the use case here? Why would you like to unlock 1Password for Mac using a YubiKey + PIN rather than using one of the following options:

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Your account password
Your fingerprint (Touch ID)
Your Apple Watch

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I did want to mention that we're currently testing passkey unlock in a public beta which allows you to unlock 1Password using a passkey rather than an account password. Passkeys are usually saved in a platform manager like iCloud Keychain but they can also be saved to a YubiKey. You can read more here:

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Unlock 1Password with a passkey (beta)

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The passkey unlock beta requires that you create a special new account, passkeys can't be added to existing accounts yet. Once you've created a passkey unlock account and saved your initial passkey in a passkey manager, you can add your YubiKey.

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Please be aware that passkey unlock is still in beta so you may run into more issues than usual. If you're hesitant about using a beta then I would stick with a regular account for now.

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-Dave

Ideally the passkey unlock function would work with a passkey store on a yubikey

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On android pixel 8 pro - I currently see no option to use an external security passkey

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On windows I do - so thats good - except you still need access to your email password if you are on a fresh device so they have displaced the password to your email provider

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I would not describe the current solution has ideal or even good, and it is only paswordless with some large caveats

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Will 1P fix both the above? Who knows....I would love them to

Wouldn't local FIDO2-resident-key unlock be better? I.e., the FIDO2-key ultimately verifies user verification, through either PIN, biometrics, or something else.

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Not sure if this is the right place to discuss (vs. starting a new thread,) but since I saw YubiKeys mentioned I'll give it a go.

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I would like the ability to associate any number of YubiKeys (or their equivalent hardware-based FIDO / webauthn equivalents) directly in the 1Password for Mac desktop app.

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I.e. for unlocking the local 1Password vault / app itself.

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When implemented with an additional 4-digit PIN code (in 1Password natively, not within the hardware-key prompt), this could improve overall 1Password security and convenience by allowing a very secure main 1Password unlock password, while making it quick and easy for the user to unlock 1password just by tapping their YubiKey device and entering a quick 4-digit PIN code.

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Only 3 tries allowed for said PIN code, after which 1Password would fall back to requiring the full-length main 1Password-unlock password.

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