1Password 8 fetches attachments and documents when needed.
Well, 1Password 8 tries to fetch the attachments and documents when needed, but if you don't have a working internet connection or the 1PW server is not reachable, you simply can't access the documents. That is the whole point of this thread.
I get that 99% of the time, this is not an issue and people won't notice this limitation, but in the rare cases when they do run into this limitation, they can be in for a nasty surprise. In a worst case scenario, where Agile Bits is successfully hit by an APT group, a rogue employee, or any unknown event that we currently lack the imagination to anticipate, those documents could even be completely lost forever! Again, I know that this happening is not particularly likely, but I find "trust us, it will probably be fine" just really problematic in the context of secure document storage.
I can understand that for larger Teams who attach many documents, an option to opt-out of local document storage could be useful, but for the vast majority of users -- most of whom are currently blissfully unaware of this risk -- attached documents really should be stored/synced locally. This is even more true in light of the fact that the official https://support.1password.com/files/ for attached files does not even contain a small footnote about the fact that "so they’re always available when you need them" is actually not completely true. If you are worried about metered connections, you could simply do what apps such as podcast clients do and only download new and changed attachments when the device is connected to Wi-Fi.
Since (temporary) caching after viewing a document is already working, it seems like you have already done most of the work needed to re-implement reliable local document storage. I really, really hope it will be implemented by the time the "classic" 1PW browser extension stops working. It would not only give peace of mind to people such as myself, who value control over the safety of their data, it would also spare others from unfortunate surprises when they discover that they can't access a document because they are without a working internet connection.
In this thread from last year, it was stated that attached documents are not available offline in 1PW 8 because they are not stored locally.
\n\nAccording to this support page, offline viewing seems to have been implemented in the meantime:
\n\n\n\n\n1Password lets you securely store your most important files, so they’re always available when you need them.
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It would be great, if you could confirm that attached documents are now indeed available offline, or whether that statement is inaccurate.
\n\nI'm having a very hard time deciding wether I should migrate from a local vault in 1PW 7 to a cloud-based vault in 1PW 8 or whether I should switch password managers altogether. One big worry I have about switching to the cloud-based vault is loss of control over my data. The idea that my attached documents in 1PW (which are my most important/sensitive documents) would neither be included in my own Time Machine backups nor available without both a working internet connection and the 1PW server being available would represent my worst fears in this area come true.
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In https://1password.community/discussion/133135/see-downloaded-passport-and-travel-docs-into-the-document-section-offline thread from last year, it was stated that attached documents are not available offline in 1PW 8 because they are not stored locally.
\n\nAccording to https://support.1password.com/files/ support page, offline viewing seems to have been implemented in the meantime:
\n\n\n\n\n1Password lets you securely store your most important files, so they’re always available when you need them.
\n
It would be great, if you could confirm that attached documents are now indeed available offline, or whether that statement is inaccurate.
\n\nI'm having a very hard time deciding wether I should migrate from a local vault in 1PW 7 to a cloud-based vault in 1PW 8 or whether I should switch password managers altogether. One big worry I have about switching to the cloud-based vault is loss of control over my data. The idea that my attached documents in 1PW (which are my most important/sensitive documents) would neither be included in my own Time Machine backups nor available without both a working internet connection and the 1PW server being available would represent my worst fears in this area come true.
\n\n1Password Version: Not Provided
\nExtension Version: Not Provided
\nOS Version: Not Provided
\nBrowser:_ Not Provided
\n\n\n1Password 8 fetches attachments and documents when needed.
\n
\nWell, 1Password 8 tries to fetch the attachments and documents when needed, but if you don't have a working internet connection or the 1PW server is not reachable, you simply can't access the documents. That is the whole point of this thread.
I get that 99% of the time, this is not an issue and people won't notice this limitation, but in the rare cases when they do run into this limitation, they can be in for a nasty surprise. In a worst case scenario, where Agile Bits is successfully hit by an APT group, a rogue employee, or any unknown event that we currently lack the imagination to anticipate, those documents could even be completely lost forever! Again, I know that this happening is not particularly likely, but I find \"trust us, it will probably be fine\" just really problematic in the context of secure document storage.
\n\nI can understand that for larger Teams who attach many documents, an option to opt-out of local document storage could be useful, but for the vast majority of users -- most of whom are currently blissfully unaware of this risk -- attached documents really should be stored/synced locally. This is even more true in light of the fact that the official https://support.1password.com/files/ for attached files does not even contain a small footnote about the fact that \"so they’re always available when you need them\" is actually not completely true. If you are worried about metered connections, you could simply do what apps such as podcast clients do and only download new and changed attachments when the device is connected to Wi-Fi.
\n\nSince (temporary) caching after viewing a document is already working, it seems like you have already done most of the work needed to re-implement reliable local document storage. I really, really hope it will be implemented by the time the \"classic\" 1PW browser extension stops working. It would not only give peace of mind to people such as myself, who value control over the safety of their data, it would also spare others from unfortunate surprises when they discover that they can't access a document because they are without a working internet connection.
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\n
\nWell, 1Password 8 tries to fetch the attachments and documents when needed, but if you don't have a working internet connection or the 1PW server is not reachable, you simply can't access the documents. That is the whole point of this thread.
I get that 99% of the time, this is not an issue and people won't notice this limitation, but in the rare cases when they do run into this limitation, they can be in for a nasty surprise. In a worst case scenario, where Agile Bits is successfully hit by an APT group, a rogue employee, or any unknown event that we currently lack the imagination to anticipate, those documents could even be completely lost forever! Again, I know that this happening is not particularly likely, but I find \"trust us, it will probably be fine\" just really problematic in the context of secure document storage.
\n\nI can understand that for larger Teams who attach many documents, an option to opt-out of local document storage could be useful, but for the vast majority of users -- most of whom are currently blissfully unaware of this risk -- attached documents really should be stored/synced locally. This is even more true in light of the fact that the official support page for attached files does not even contain a small footnote about the fact that \"so they’re always available when you need them\" is actually not completely true. If you are worried about metered connections, you could simply do what apps such as podcast clients do and only download new and changed attachments when the device is connected to Wi-Fi.
\n\nSince (temporary) caching after viewing a document is already working, it seems like you have already done most of the work needed to re-implement reliable local document storage. I really, really hope it will be implemented by the time the \"classic\" 1PW browser extension stops working. It would not only give peace of mind to people such as myself, who value control over the safety of their data, it would also spare others from unfortunate surprises when they discover that they can't access a document because they are without a working internet connection.
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