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celos
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4 years ago

New "Share" functionality: explain to me how it works (and how it's better as it seems MUCH worse)

Today, I tried to share an item in my vault with my wife. For years I have used the share button in 1Password, and the basic behavior on the Mac and iOS has been the same—when messaging or using AirDrop, after a helpful "be aware when you share" dialog, she's prompted on her device to add the item to 1Password on her device.

The new share behavior seems like a step backwards in every way. I followed the instructions on https://support.1password.com/share-items/#manage-shared-item, trying both the user path that sends a verification code to her email and the one that just requires the link. In both cases, the browser window that opens displays the relevant 1Password vault item, but with no way to add it to 1Password on her device.

I tried multiple browsers on both her computer and mine, and do not see a way to add the information to either the 1Password app or to 1Password.com when signed in to the service in the same browser.

A 1Password item has a lot of information in it; is the expectation that the person with whom I'm sharing is supposed to copy and paste all that information into 1Password from the browser window that opens?

We have a 1Password Families account. For a number of reasons, I do not want to put the item I'm sharing in a shared vault. I just want to share it directly.

This is something I've done dozens of times since I stared using 1Password back in 2008.

Am I missing something here?


1Password Version: 7.9.2
Extension Version: 7.9
OS Version: macOS 10.14 and 12.0.1; iOS 15

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  • celos Thank you for the reply. Let's focus on why you're not seeing the Save in 1Password button for the moment since that seems to be the biggest blocker. Can you tell me which browser you're using to open the share links on your Macbook Air? You mentioned using 1Blocker, are you using Safari?

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    celos
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    Dave, thanks for replying. I decidedly do not have that dialog that allows me to "Save a copy for later". I just set up a brand new M1 MacBook Air, and installed 1Password on it, and I do not have that option. I don't see it on any of my other computers, either. This is what I see:

    I tried it twice in the same browser, once when that browser was logged into my 1PW account, and once when not. It behaves the same way.

    Any suggestions as to what might be preventing the behavior? (I am running 1Blocker, FWIW.)

    To your question about shared vaults, there are two main things that I liked about the old behavior.

    First, for long-time users, shifting to Shared Vaults is a few hour's work. I'd need to go through my Private vault and move a bunch of entries to a Shared Vault. Then on my wife's (and kids, for that matter) vaults, go through and remove any duplicates. To my knowledge the remove duplicates tool only works within a vault, not across vaults. If I'm wrong about that, let me know, as an automated method would make it more palatable. For someone who hasn't used 1PW for 10-plus years, this might not be a big deal.

    Second, sharing via AirDrop is incredibly convenient and incredibly fast. I can understand the security concerns about sending 1PW items via email or SMS or other methods, and it's great you're saving people from themselves in that regard. But AirDrop seems reasonably secure, is local, and again, is incredibly fast. Select the item and share it with someone; they receive it and add to 1PW. It's super convenient.

    Even with shared vaults, I can see use cases for the old share method, and would really like to see it there as an option. And without the ability to import an item via the new Share method as you've described, the new method is definitely not as good.

  • Hello celos! 👋

    The new secure item sharing feature allows you to share items while keeping them protected with 1Password's end-to-end encryption. The drawback of the previous method was that it sent your items in plain text and unencrypted.

    If you and your wife are both members of the same 1Password Families account then the best way to share items between family members is through a shared vault. Was there a reason why you don't want to use a shared vault? You can read more about shared vaults here: Share passwords with your family

    If you don't want to use a shared vault then you can certainly use secure item sharing and your wife will be able to add the item to her account. When your wife opens a share link sent to her by you then she should see a Save in 1Password button beneath the item. It will look like this:

    If she doesn't see this then please make sure that she has 1Password in the browser installed: Get started with 1Password in your browser

    Let me know if that helps. :)

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Today, I tried to share an item in my vault with my wife. For years I have used the share button in 1Password, and the basic behavior on the Mac and iOS has been the same—when messaging or using AirDrop, after a helpful \"be aware when you share\" dialog, she's prompted on her device to add the item to 1Password on her device.

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The new share behavior seems like a step backwards in every way. I followed the instructions on https://support.1password.com/share-items/#manage-shared-item, trying both the user path that sends a verification code to her email and the one that just requires the link. In both cases, the browser window that opens displays the relevant 1Password vault item, but with no way to add it to 1Password on her device.

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I tried multiple browsers on both her computer and mine, and do not see a way to add the information to either the 1Password app or to 1Password.com when signed in to the service in the same browser.

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A 1Password item has a lot of information in it; is the expectation that the person with whom I'm sharing is supposed to copy and paste all that information into 1Password from the browser window that opens?

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We have a 1Password Families account. For a number of reasons, I do not want to put the item I'm sharing in a shared vault. I just want to share it directly.

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This is something I've done dozens of times since I stared using 1Password back in 2008.

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Am I missing something here?

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1Password Version: 7.9.2
\nExtension Version: 7.9
\nOS Version: macOS 10.14 and 12.0.1; iOS 15

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Today, I tried to share an item in my vault with my wife. For years I have used the share button in 1Password, and the basic behavior on the Mac and iOS has been the same—when messaging or using AirDrop, after a helpful \"be aware when you share\" dialog, she's prompted on her device to add the item to 1Password on her device.

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The new share behavior seems like a step backwards in every way. I followed the instructions on this page, trying both the user path that sends a verification code to her email and the one that just requires the link. In both cases, the browser window that opens displays the relevant 1Password vault item, but with no way to add it to 1Password on her device.

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I tried multiple browsers on both her computer and mine, and do not see a way to add the information to either the 1Password app or to 1Password.com when signed in to the service in the same browser.

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A 1Password item has a lot of information in it; is the expectation that the person with whom I'm sharing is supposed to copy and paste all that information into 1Password from the browser window that opens?

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We have a 1Password Families account. For a number of reasons, I do not want to put the item I'm sharing in a shared vault. I just want to share it directly.

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This is something I've done dozens of times since I stared using 1Password back in 2008.

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Am I missing something here?

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1Password Version: 7.9.2
\nExtension Version: 7.9
\nOS Version: macOS 10.14 and 12.0.1; iOS 15

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celos Thank you for the reply. Let's focus on why you're not seeing the Save in 1Password button for the moment since that seems to be the biggest blocker. Can you tell me which browser you're using to open the share links on your Macbook Air? You mentioned using 1Blocker, are you using Safari?

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Dave, thanks for replying. I decidedly do not have that dialog that allows me to \"Save a copy for later\". I just set up a brand new M1 MacBook Air, and installed 1Password on it, and I do not have that option. I don't see it on any of my other computers, either. This is what I see:
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I tried it twice in the same browser, once when that browser was logged into my 1PW account, and once when not. It behaves the same way.

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Any suggestions as to what might be preventing the behavior? (I am running 1Blocker, FWIW.)

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To your question about shared vaults, there are two main things that I liked about the old behavior.

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First, for long-time users, shifting to Shared Vaults is a few hour's work. I'd need to go through my Private vault and move a bunch of entries to a Shared Vault. Then on my wife's (and kids, for that matter) vaults, go through and remove any duplicates. To my knowledge the remove duplicates tool only works within a vault, not across vaults. If I'm wrong about that, let me know, as an automated method would make it more palatable. For someone who hasn't used 1PW for 10-plus years, this might not be a big deal.

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Second, sharing via AirDrop is incredibly convenient and incredibly fast. I can understand the security concerns about sending 1PW items via email or SMS or other methods, and it's great you're saving people from themselves in that regard. But AirDrop seems reasonably secure, is local, and again, is incredibly fast. Select the item and share it with someone; they receive it and add to 1PW. It's super convenient.

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Even with shared vaults, I can see use cases for the old share method, and would really like to see it there as an option. And without the ability to import an item via the new Share method as you've described, the new method is definitely not as good.

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Hello celos! 👋

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The new secure item sharing feature allows you to share items while keeping them protected with 1Password's end-to-end encryption. The drawback of the previous method was that it sent your items in plain text and unencrypted.

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If you and your wife are both members of the same 1Password Families account then the best way to share items between family members is through a shared vault. Was there a reason why you don't want to use a shared vault? You can read more about shared vaults here: Share passwords with your family

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If you don't want to use a shared vault then you can certainly use secure item sharing and your wife will be able to add the item to her account. When your wife opens a share link sent to her by you then she should see a Save in 1Password button beneath the item. It will look like this:

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If she doesn't see this then please make sure that she has 1Password in the browser installed: Get started with 1Password in your browser

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Let me know if that helps. :)

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