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Why is the top search result default instead of all results?

The way I search — like the vast majority of people in user testing I have done at my place of business — is to type a few things and hit return. Then you peruse a full list of filtered options. It i...
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The way I search — like the vast majority of people in user testing I have done at my place of business — is to type a few things and hit return. Then you peruse a full list of filtered options. It is not to type a few things, stop yourself from hitting return and examine first item on the \"suggested list\" to see if it is the one you want and THEN hit return, and if it isn't... then continue perusing a list of suggestions in a menu dropdown, and when you don't find a suggestion with what you needed, select \"Show all\" at the very bottom and finally get the list you should have had at the very beginning.

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That former was the old behavior in 1Password, and it is the behavior of almost every other app anywhere ever. Type, hit return, get filtered list. But now it's the latter. Type, hit return, get one result that is completely wrong. Redo the search, and go through three steps to get to the same thing that should have happened when you first searched.

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Maybe this unintuitive UX decision is a preferred method for a few people at 1Password, after all, our user testing always shows outliers, so sure... keep it. But for goodness sake, please make it an OPTION, and not the unalterable default. When I type a search, I want ALL results. Every time. I don't want one, unless I slow everything down and carefully follow \"procedure.\"

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Yes, you can argue, \"Well just hold down command key when you hit return.\" But since this is behavior used by no other app, I have to train my brain to change behavior for just this one app. And I've tried, but it won't stick. Please just give us the old style back as an option at least.

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I have accidentally selected the top result 99% of the time in 1Password 8, and it has been the wrong thing 90% of the time.

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The way I search — like the vast majority of people in user testing I have done at my place of business — is to type a few things and hit return. Then you peruse a full list of filtered options. It is not to type a few things, stop yourself from hitting return and examine first item on the \"suggested list\" to see if it is the one you want and THEN hit return, and if it isn't... then continue perusing a list of suggestions in a menu dropdown, and when you don't find a suggestion with what you needed, select \"Show all\" at the very bottom and finally get the list you should have had at the very beginning.

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That former was the old behavior in 1Password, and it is the behavior of almost every other app anywhere ever. Type, hit return, get filtered list. But now it's the latter. Type, hit return, get one result that is completely wrong. Redo the search, and go through three steps to get to the same thing that should have happened when you first searched.

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Maybe this unintuitive UX decision is a preferred method for a few people at 1Password, after all, our user testing always shows outliers, so sure... keep it. But for goodness sake, please make it an OPTION, and not the unalterable default. When I type a search, I want ALL results. Every time. I don't want one, unless I slow everything down and carefully follow \"procedure.\"

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Yes, you can argue, \"Well just hold down command key when you hit return.\" But since this is behavior used by no other app, I have to train my brain to change behavior for just this one app. And I've tried, but it won't stick. Please just give us the old style back as an option at least.

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I have accidentally selected the top result 99% of the time in 1Password 8, and it has been the wrong thing 90% of the time.

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Almost 1 1/2 later and search the UI/UX is still not fixed/reverted. I've just checked all applications with search functionality I use daily. All of them search the same way as 1PW7 (and older) did, i. e. search as you type and immediatly show all results.
\nIn contrast to the findings 1P_Travis mentioned

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\"...better aligned with user expectations in circumstances where they were trying to quickly find a singular item...\"
\nI typically expect to get many results as I often search using substrings/partial words.
\nAdding different variants of search/find which are partly hidden isn't a solution. Either completely revert this change or at least add an option to revert it with the old behavior being default.
\nAs much as I would like to use 1PW8's new features like ssh integration the awful search experience makes me always revert within minutes to 1PW8. So I'll have to use 1PW7 for as long as possible and if search is still not usable than 1PW7 stops working, I'll have to switch to a different password manager.

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Almost 1 1/2 later and search the UI/UX is still not fixed/reverted. I've just checked all applications with search functionality I use daily. All of them search the same way as 1PW7 (and older) did, i. e. search as you type and immediatly show all results.
\nIn contrast to the findings mentioned

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\"...better aligned with user expectations in circumstances where they were trying to quickly find a singular item...\"
\nI typically expect to get many results as I often search using substrings/partial words.
\nAdding different variants of search/find which are partly hidden isn't a solution. Either completely revert this change or at least add an option to revert it with the old behavior being default.
\nAs much as I would like to use 1PW8's new features like ssh integration the awful search experience makes me always revert within minutes to 1PW8. So I'll have to use 1PW7 for as long as possible and if search is still not usable than 1PW7 stops working, I'll have to switch to a different password manager.

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