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Passkey unlocked using device passcode
Hi, A silly question, maybe, regarding unlocking 1Password with a passkey. I was one of the private beta users and, while I found it very convenient, there is an aspect that worries me a lot. Probably it’s just me not understanding the details, that’s why I am asking here. In the blog post describing the introduction of passkeys to unlock 1Password (https://blog.1password.com/unlock-1password-individual-passkey-beta/) you can read: “Once you’ve created a passkey, you can unlock 1Password by using biometrics or, as a fallback, the passcode that protects your device. You can then use your first device to set up more trusted devices with 1Password.” Let’s imagine that someone has access to my iPhone and tries to get into 1Password. Biometric will not work, as his face is different from mine. With the current master password, he needs to guess a long and complex sequence of letters, numbers and special characters. Very difficult. With the passkey, he will only need to guess the passcode that protects my device. Much easier than my master password. Entropy level of the secret key of the passkey pair can be as high as possible, but if anyone can access it with the phone passcode (usually 6 digits, nobody will ever use a 26 characters random password as a phone passcode), can someone explain me how the passkey is as safe as the master password in a situation like the above? Thanks! 1Password Version: Not Provided Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: Not Provided Browser: Not Provided
Passkey no longer working on Boursobank
Hello, I uses passkey since 2023 on Boursobank without any issues. Since a few days, I have a error that is displayed immediately (no loading or timeout) telling me that it timed out, the website switch directly to a normal login. So I guessed there was an issue on the key itself. I tried to revoke and create a new one, but same issue. When trying to create a new passkey, 1Password display the error "The request to create a passkey timed out". The error is also immediate (no loading or anything). On the website, it displays "Enrolment has expired or been cancelled". I've tried using other passkeys I have, without any issue. It seems to only impact Boursobank. Using Firefox 138.0 + Extension on Windows 11 24H2
Use of PRF extension
Hi, I've tried out the beta to unlock 1Password with a passkey, and it seems to work well, but I'm surprised that passkeys only serve the purpose of authentication. According to the white paper, the actual encryption key is stored on the already logged in clients, wrapped by a key provided by the server when the authentication succeeds. This is different from the way Bitwarden has released its passkey unlock beta. The encryption key is directly derived from the passkey using the FIDO2 PRF extension. This allows the use of security keys as passkeys. I know that 1Password does support physical tokens as passkeys too, but it is not of much use, since you need a trusted device to transfer the encryption key anyway, which means you can not rely on your key as a backup method. The absence of PRF also means that users can not take advantage of the passkey backup offered by Google Password Manager and iCloud Keychain. I think that the ability to set up PRF with supported authenticators would be a great addition to the system. It would allow a much more consistent experience and would probably prevent some account losses due to the recovery code not being saved (or access to the associated email being lost, e.g. because it was stored within 1Password). I know that not all platforms currently support PRF, but it is already quite widespread, as from what I have tried, at least Android, Chromium and YubiKeys do support it. Even users of unsupported browsers would benefit this feature since they could temporarily use a supported platform to regain access when needed. By the way, based on my test with Bitwarden, 1Password as an authenticator (for third-party websites) doesn't seem to support PRF. This would be a great addition too, because it's the most practical way to use zero-knowledge encryption with passkey login, so we can probably expect more and more websites to implement it. Thanks a lot for your work! Guillaume 1Password Version: Not Provided Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: Not Provided Browser: Not Provided
Why passkey login to 1Password?
I can't understand the reason to spend development dollars to enable passkey login to 1Password account. I must be missing something here. I am a huge fan of passkeys and 1Password as the repository for all my passkeys, but logging into 1Password with a passkey makes no sense to me. My assumption is that to login to 1Password with a passkey, that passkey has to be stored on a device. For iOS/Mac that is iCloud keychain. For Windows, Linux, Android, or any other platform it will be stored somewhere else. Now the passkey, which is the gateway to my digital life, is stored in a whole bunch of places, with associated security or lack there of. If this assumption is correct, then 1Password seems to be passing off the security of the whole platform to other platforms which means it is out of their control, and inherently less secure. (iPhone passcode could give access to iCloud Keychain for example). One other question, if I loose all my devices, how do I get access to my 1Password account? No passkey or other logged in device available to validate. I go to 1password.com and ??? Help me understand why passkey login to 1Password is a benefit worth doing and using? Thanks! 1Password Version: Not Provided Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: Not Provided Browser: Not Provided
Recovery Code: Recent attempt was cancelled.
I have created a new test account and wanted to try out the recovery code. Unfortunately, I receive an error message stating "Recent attempt was cancelled" every time I attempt to log in, even after waiting several hours and generating new codes. 1Password Version: Not Provided Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: Not Provided Browser: Not Provided
Accessing 1Password with Passkey
(1) Can I access 1Password with multiple passkeys? (2) Can I access 1Password with a passkey stored on a Yubikey? (3) Can I access my account on 1Password.com with a passkey stored in 1Password, while unlocking the 1Password app using my master password? 1Password Version: 8.1.20 Extension Version: 2.17.0 for Chrome, 2.17.1 for Safari OS Version: MacOS Sonoma 14.1.1 Browser: Chrome and SafariCan I store the passkey for my 1Password account on a Yubikey?
Hey guys, I just read your newsletter about passkeys and login into 1PW.com and the authentication details. Is there any way to add the passkey and the "hidden secret" to a Yubikey - To have such kind of keys as backup? Or would the migration to 1PW.com Passkeys result in the need to have at least one PC, Smartphone, Tablet as trusted device. And Yubikeys won't be supported any more? (not from Webauthn perspective) but the hidden secret string can't be passed to the HW Key? 1Password Version: Not Provided Extension Version: Not Provided OS Version: Not Provided Browser: Not Provided
