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skatch
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2 months ago

Deleted vaults & organizer permissions

I opened 1Password just now and got a notification that the global shared vault in my family account was deleted. This was either due to a family member's mistake or a bug. While I figure out which, I have a couple thoughts to share:

  • I wish that the account recovery permission were separate from vault management. I've designated a few people as family organizers so they can help with account recovery if needed. But I'd rather they not have the ability to delete vaults to guard against accidents.
  • It's too bad there's no way to recover deleted vaults like there is with deleted items. Accidental vault deletion is catastrophic data loss. (Yes I know there's a stern warning confirmation before deleting a vault. But, assuming this case was due to a mistake, it wasn't enough to prevent it from happening.)

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  • skatch 

     

    You might opt for generating a recovery code and sharing with them to guard against the other possibilities while still providing peace of mind. For me, I have both because of my fear of losing access e.g. My being incapacitated and my kids (adult) need access for legal reasons.

    Generate and use recovery codes

    • skatch's avatar
      skatch
      Frequent Contributor

      There are a lot of people of all ages and technical abilities in my family account. A few of us could generate and share a recovery code, but it's not a workable solution for most. Assisted recovery via an organizer is a great option that covers everyone.

      (Also as an update: it turns out that the shared vault was deleted on purpose and we've managed to sort things out. I still believe that more fine-grained vault management permissions as well as limited vault recovery would be helpful.)

      • 1P_Tommy's avatar
        1P_Tommy
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        I agree with you 100%. I hope this is something we can bring about in the future. I'll be right there at the first of the line with you.

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I have a MacBook Pro laptop, running macOS version 12.6.6 Monterey, and I am using the Safari browser, version 16.5 (17615.2.9.11.6, 17615). I also have 1Password Families for Mac, version 8.10.7 (801007041). 1Password will no longer auto-fill usernames or passwords for websites, when I use the Safari browser; however, 1Password auto-fill seems to still work perfectly with the Google Chrome browser. I have the 1Password extension, version 2.11.0 icon displaying in my Safari toolbar; when I right-click it and select 'Settings', all the Auto-fill options are selected. When I select 'Accounts & Vaults', both my Private and Shared Vaults are enabled.

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My wife has the exact same setup, with the exact same computer model, software versions, and 1Password settings that I have, yet 1Password auto-fills perfectly on her Mac when using Safari; so this issue does seem to be something specific to my computer.

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Any tips would be appreciated.

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Thanks!

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David Lindsay

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1Password Version: 8.10.7 (801007041)
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\nBrowser:_ Safari
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I have a MacBook Pro laptop, running macOS version 12.6.6 Monterey, and I am using the Safari browser, version 16.5 (17615.2.9.11.6, 17615). I also have 1Password Families for Mac, version 8.10.7 (801007041). 1Password will no longer auto-fill usernames or passwords for websites, when I use the Safari browser; however, 1Password auto-fill seems to still work perfectly with the Google Chrome browser. I have the 1Password extension, version 2.11.0 icon displaying in my Safari toolbar; when I right-click it and select 'Settings', all the Auto-fill options are selected. When I select 'Accounts & Vaults', both my Private and Shared Vaults are enabled.

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My wife has the exact same setup, with the exact same computer model, software versions, and 1Password settings that I have, yet 1Password auto-fills perfectly on her Mac when using Safari; so this issue does seem to be something specific to my computer.

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Any tips would be appreciated.

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Thanks!

\n\n

David Lindsay

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1Password Version: 8.10.7 (801007041)
\nExtension Version: 2.11.0
\nOS Version: macOS 12.6.6
\nBrowser:_ Safari
\nReferrer: forum-search:1Password Families for Mac will no longer Auto-fill in Safari

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@whydavewhy Sounds good. We're always happy to help.

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Will do. Thanks.

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Hey @whydavewhy, that is so strange, but it is good to hear that things are working better now in Safari. Please keep an eye on things for the next week or two. If the database termination notification appears again, please let us know!

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UPDATE!

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Hi again Steph,

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FYI: A few days ago, I opened the Apple Disk Utility app, and ran ‘First Aid’ on my hard drive, then re-booted; so far, I have not seen the \"The database was terminated\" error pop-up when using Safari. Also, I have no problem logging-in to any of my websites anymore, including the ones which were originally giving me problems (Certified Federal Credit Union and Apple Support Communities). So it must have just been a glitch. Thanks again.

\n\n

David

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OK, the 1Password “The database was terminated” error message just popped up, after I submitted a question to a company via their website; so this is a recurring, annoying problem, and it is not related to me clearing my Safari search history, because I have not done that today. So far, the pop-up intermittently appears when I close Safari, when I close a webpage, when I bookmark a website, and when I submit a question on a website.

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Additional problem: “The database was terminated” error message is now popping up intermittently today when I bookmark a webpage in Safari. It happened 3 times so far when I was saving bookmarks (not every time, though). However, I just tried saving a bunch of bookmarks, to reproduce the problem, and it won't happen now. This is really getting annoying.

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Hi Steph,

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Thanks for your detailed response! Here are the answers to your questions…

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Thanks again,

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David

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Hey @whydavewhy,

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Thank you for providing all of this information, I will do my best to cover it all.

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Firstly, I would recommend disabling Safari's Keychain as it is not necessary if you are using 1Password and can cause interference. Here's how: Turn off the built-in password manager in your browser.

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As for Certified Federal Credit Union, it seems strange that you are able to fill your credentials in Chrome but not in Safari. I have done some testing and I'm having a hard time replicating the behaviour you are seeing. Can you confirm it is just this specific website you are having trouble with in Safari? Are there any others?

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I'm not sure if the issue you are referring to from the 'What's new' section is relevant to this one as this seems to be more website specific. You may no longer be able to see this update here because once you have read it it has now been dismissed.

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I’d like to provide some detail on the message you are seeing in Safari. When you clear Safari’s history, or other settings in the browser it may trigger the error message as you have seen. In Safari, the indexedDB data of 1Password for Safari, which contains all the settings and processes to establish 1Password’s functionality, also gets wiped out when Safari clears cache/history. This behaviour can also happen it you have “Block all cookies” enabled under Safari’s Settings > Privacy tab.

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You should be able to close this tab and continue working as usual, you can find out more information on this message here: If you see \"The 1Password browser extension needed to restart\".

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I hope the above helps.

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Update: I just discovered that on my computer, the 1Password icons also do not work when trying to log-in to the 1Password Support Communities website (https://1password.community/entry/signin?Target=?Target=), so this problem affects multiple websites; not just the Certified Federal Credit Union website. This works fine on my wife's computer, however.

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My 1Password toolbar icon (1Password for Safari) is version 2.11.0.

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