1P_Ben @MrRooni roustem
I understand a part for you deciding to go for Electron on the front end was so that the Apps could all look and feel as close as possible to each other across the various...
It is tough to say that a native app is better than using electro for 1Password development for many reasons.
1Password is a cross-platform application that not only works on Windows or Mac, but it should also work on all available platforms, so it would be a tremendous advantage when they share the same source code. We can fix a bug faster, data can work across devices more effectively, and we can spend more time fixing and improving 1Password instead of dividing our resources to different departments to work on various native apps. There is usually difficulty communicating between teams since they use different technologies and that will make an issue takes much longer to resolve.
There are excellent apps that use Electro such as Slack, VS code (One of the best code editors if not the best), Discord, WordPress are just a few of them and the list I believe will keep being bigger over time as more and more apps require to work cross platforms.
The development process of a native app will inarguably cost more for much less when we develop an app that must work on many platforms. We can't expect to spend resources to develop native 1Password 8 for Mac, Windows, iOS, Android separately and being effective. If we can't focus our resources, we will fall behind.
We did not just deciding to go for Electron without any researches and reasons. We guarantee that it fits our development focus to make great app with better performance, user friendly before making such decision. Please give it a try to see how it works.
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I understand a part for you deciding to go for Electron on the front end was so that the Apps could all look and feel as close as possible to each other across the various different platforms. Can I ask, seriously, who actually asked for this?
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I've done a quick and dirty survey of my non technically bless friends - not a single one of them expects or wants Apps to behave the same way across all platforms. All of them expect, and are happy to accept that each platform will make Apps looks and behave differently.
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Shouldn't the focus being on using the best available to technologies and frameworks to make each App feel, look and function the best for its respect platform, even if that means it isn't exactly consistent across each?
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I'm just struggling to understand this design decision, and it makes me sad because it really feels like an absolute betrayal for one of the key things you used to stand for, having the best native Mac Apps possible. Using Electron is completely at odds with having the best native Mac App possible, because there are other, better frameworks out there.
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I understand a part for you deciding to go for Electron on the front end was so that the Apps could all look and feel as close as possible to each other across the various different platforms. Can I ask, seriously, who actually asked for this?
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I've done a quick and dirty survey of my non technically bless friends - not a single one of them expects or wants Apps to behave the same way across all platforms. All of them expect, and are happy to accept that each platform will make Apps looks and behave differently.
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Shouldn't the focus being on using the best available to technologies and frameworks to make each App feel, look and function the best for its respect platform, even if that means it isn't exactly consistent across each?
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I'm just struggling to understand this design decision, and it makes me sad because it really feels like an absolute betrayal for one of the key things you used to stand for, having the best native Mac Apps possible. Using Electron is completely at odds with having the best native Mac App possible, because there are other, better frameworks out there.
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It is tough to say that a native app is better than using electro for 1Password development for many reasons.
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1Password is a cross-platform application that not only works on Windows or Mac, but it should also work on all available platforms, so it would be a tremendous advantage when they share the same source code. We can fix a bug faster, data can work across devices more effectively, and we can spend more time fixing and improving 1Password instead of dividing our resources to different departments to work on various native apps. There is usually difficulty communicating between teams since they use different technologies and that will make an issue takes much longer to resolve.
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There are excellent apps that use Electro such as Slack, VS code (One of the best code editors if not the best), Discord, WordPress are just a few of them and the list I believe will keep being bigger over time as more and more apps require to work cross platforms.
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The development process of a native app will inarguably cost more for much less when we develop an app that must work on many platforms. We can't expect to spend resources to develop native 1Password 8 for Mac, Windows, iOS, Android separately and being effective. If we can't focus our resources, we will fall behind.
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We did not just deciding to go for Electron without any researches and reasons. We guarantee that it fits our development focus to make great app with better performance, user friendly before making such decision. Please give it a try to see how it works.
It is tough to say that a native app is better than using electro for 1Password development for many reasons.
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1Password is a cross-platform application that not only works on Windows or Mac, but it should also work on all available platforms, so it would be a tremendous advantage when they share the same source code. We can fix a bug faster, data can work across devices more effectively, and we can spend more time fixing and improving 1Password instead of dividing our resources to different departments to work on various native apps. There is usually difficulty communicating between teams since they use different technologies and that will make an issue takes much longer to resolve.
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There are excellent apps that use Electro such as Slack, VS code (One of the best code editors if not the best), Discord, WordPress are just a few of them and the list I believe will keep being bigger over time as more and more apps require to work cross platforms.
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The development process of a native app will inarguably cost more for much less when we develop an app that must work on many platforms. We can't expect to spend resources to develop native 1Password 8 for Mac, Windows, iOS, Android separately and being effective. If we can't focus our resources, we will fall behind.
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