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4 years agoSuper Contributor
Design language
This discussion was created from comments split from: Electron.
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- Former Member
While we're stuck with Electron, I think 1Password owes it to the users to make good-faith efforts to make the app nice to use. It is clear that with 1Password 8 Early Release that they haven't. Little touches like scroll bouncing, juttery animations, Windows-style interactions need a lot of work and they have not commented on whether they care to improve them at all.
- Former Member
Hopefully input like that of @KirkMcPike is helpful to the developers. I'm a clueless idiot, and my statements of, "the whole thing just feels off" aren't very helpful to them, I'm sure. So I'm glad there are users who can identify why things feel off. If we're stuck with an Electron UI, I hope that these sorts of paper cuts, which make the app feel foreign on the Mac, get ironed out over time.
I understand we're early in the process, and I applaud the team for putting up with a ton of grief, with grace and patience.
- Former Member
Regardless of design language, this should never happen on a Mac: a Windows close button on the right of a modal, immovable window:
Regardless of design language, this should never happen on a Mac: a fake "menu" that cannot extend beyond the edge of its own window, necessitating scrolling:
If I wanted a lowest-common-denominator UI, I'd use Windows or Linux.
- austinFrequent Contributor
Here's hoping that the resizing affects only content, not chrome, in a future release, and that itโs not bound to keyboard shortcuts because itโs way too easy for people to mess that up.
- sameerchavanFrequent Contributor
@danvpeterson thanks for the trick to increase font size using zoom in.
- Former Member
I don't know anything about design language, but if you get rid of native apps, I am gone. Electron is garbage.
- Former Member
Thanks again for all the additional feedback folks, In relation to the light gray text sameerchavan, can you give a bit more details or screenshots there? We've tried to pretty thoroughly test text color throughout the app to meet color contrast guidelines, so if there is some that we've missed I'd like to get it fixed.
Regarding font sizes, you should be able to increase and decrease the overall sizes of everything in the app by using the Zoom In and Zoom Out commands from the View menu.
As I mentioned before, we are definitely still testing out different sizing and spacing throughout the app, and will continue to iterate their based on our own research and customer feedback like this. And I actually have several mockups with search left aligned in the toolbar already that are being considered, so it may end up that way too :)
- Former Member
Adding my voice here too. Somewhere along the line the 'design language' turned into hating information density as an axiom and something to be avoided. Whitespace makes sense on a touch screen device where you need room for fingers. It does not make sense on a mac. Ironically at the same time, the design language often also uses very lightweight fonts with minimal contrast, which makes it difficult to read. Novice users may benefit, but once you gain experience in an app, it's no longer appropriate.
A Mac app is not a website. It's not an iOS app. It's not a flash app, or java app, or windows app. It's a Mac app. When you build to the lowest common denominator that's exactly what you get.
Hopefully Agile can mitigate the worst impact of the decision. The new signal app is terrible - way too much whitespace, and feels like the 'playskool' IM tool. Slack has a better UI, but still is clunky to use. But both are really heavy in terms of resource load, and neither feel like a native app.
- Former Member
I like @octothorpe88 suggestion as well. I really don't like the spacing as it currently exists.
- sameerchavanFrequent Contributor
@danvpeterson I am also a designer. If I may suggest, your universal search(which is wrongly implemented- discussion in other thread) need to be left-aligned when I stretch the window. You have kept it centre and it keeps moving.