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1P_MattG
1Password Team
2 years agoExperiment #3 - Nearby Items
Hi y'all!
I can't believe we are already shipping Experiment 3?! This one has a very special place in my heart. This project actually came out of a Hackday we did internally. Everyone was SOOOO excited about it, we wanted to share it with our users to get your feedback.
Nearby Items allows you to assign a location to an item. Then, on mobile only for now, we've added a section to the home tab that shows you items that are close to you physically. Pretty awesome, right?
The basic hypothesis here is that because people are more and more mobile, the items you need quick access to might be different based on where you are in the world. If your building at work has a door code, we'll show you that when you pull up. If you've got a storage shed, we'll show you the combo to the lock when you arrive.
This experiment is our first exploration into physical space. We know we're not "done" but wanted to get early feedback to help shape how this project evolves from here.
We're eager to hear your thoughts on Nearby Items. Let us know what you think below in this thread.
The primary questions I'm trying to answer are:
Does adding a location to an item help you get things done faster and with less friction? Do you see value in continuing to explore physical locations for items in any form?
What are the use cases where you think having an item's physical location would be valuable? We have some ideas, but I'm sure there are tons of things we aren't even thinking about.
This is a v1. If we continue to work on Nearby Items, what should we add, change, or modify to make it more valuable to you as a user?
Does it make sense to also show "nearby items" on Desktop computers?
Do you think that the current form of Nearby Items is good enough to ship in the Stable product?
88 Replies
- Doodler_Benji
1Password Team
Thanks @johnjamesjacoby, theres great insight here!
Your feedback about the item terminology has sparked my interest and I would love to know more here, is there another term that has been resonating with you for a collective of mixed items within your 1Password? This is certainly something that now you've mentioned has got me wondering if others may have been thinking and its worth exploring.
āAdd a location to items and theyāll show up when youāre nearbyā again, read to me like I was somehow tagging a physical item in the world and then it would be prominently displayed when I was close to it (a car, front door lock, NFC tag, etcā¦)
This is the premise, however there is no 'automatic' context where perhaps your using a tracking device like an AirTag/NFC and those locations being updated. Perhaps we may do well here to communicate this a little more clearly - however - we would love for this to become a method of being able to link your real-world objects with their digital 1Password stored counterparts. You're setting a location on a map / using gps to set the coords and when your device is in radius you've chosen in app - it will be shown in the home tile, sorted by the closest distance first.
(The only improvement I can imagine that may have redirected my misconception early on, is a mock-up or visual representation of what the GUI in the app looks like: like hey thatās an interface Iām familiar with and oh ah yeah I see I see š¤£)
Thank you for this suggestion, I can absolutely appreciate and visualise where you're coming from thanks to how you've carefully crafted your feedback. Thank you for this, this is great advice and its noted for future updates.
- Anonymous
Howdy everyone! Iām late to this party and am arriving to provide my NUX on this feature.
Without any context, the naming & verbiage made me think this was basically an alternative to (or a complement to) Apple Find My.
Even though Iām an 8-year user of 1PW, it never occurred to me that yāall use the word āItemsā to broadly (but properly) describe every kind of entry.
āNo items found nearbyā as the default text & interface gave me a startle, because it was as if my Find My Items had all gone missing.
āAdd a location to items and theyāll show up when youāre nearbyā again, read to me like I was somehow tagging a physical item in the world and then it would be prominently displayed when I was close to it (a car, front door lock, NFC tag, etcā¦)
āEdit an item to assign it a location. View nearby items in 1Password for iOS and Androidā again, read to me like I was adding a location to a physical item that could be tracked or seen using a mobile device.
No doubt that this is predominantly attributed to me:
* having the wrong impression stuck in my head
* using Apple AirTags on everything Iād hate to lose forever
* the ambiguity of the word āItemā
* my not registering how bonafide āItemā is in 1PWI donāt mean to imply that I any major changes are necessary, and I appreciate the opportunity to engage with all yāall and how attentive to details your team has always been, and thought my confusion might be insightful. š
(The only improvement I can imagine that may have redirected my misconception early on, is a mock-up or visual representation of what the GUI in the app looks like: like hey thatās an interface Iām familiar with and oh ah yeah I see I see š¤£)
As for what Nearby Items actually is š I tend to agree with others in this thread that the final form of this feature will be really smart entries that ājust knowā when to be useful:
- debit/credit cards ready when Iām a meter away from an ATM
- insurance cards when Iām at the dentist
- identity info when Iām at a hospital or school
- addresses when Iām at a post office
- key codes for smart locks at friends houses if Iām checking in while theyāre on holiday
- or the inverse: sharing a PIN code to my garage door to someone who needs temporary access (would come with some smart meta data baked in, like a photo of what exactly to look for)
But up until now, the concept of bridging 1Password entries with physical locations is friction Iād never experienced a single time. āIf only this entry knew I was here alreadyā has never happened that I can remember anyways, so my use-cases are all imaginary right now, but Iāll give it a try & be back here if I have any ideas. š§
- Doodler_Benji
1Password Team
Cheers XIII, I appreciate your perspective here.
I think it might be worth touching upon how this addition is to address inclusivity and how folks relate to the data displayed and it being as familiar as we can to them - instead of looking to provide misjudgement of the true distance even if it would be an approximate.You raise a very interesting point, perhaps we turn our attention towards the 'nearby' instead of the 'how close'.
Thanks again,
- XIIISuper Contributor
Feet and Meters both suggest an accuracy that GPS can't give (you posted that earlier).
Therefore, I'd rather see you solve that (not GPS itself of course, but a way to handle its lack of precision in 1Password) before introducing extra options.
- ag_andrew
1Password Team
Hey folks š
The feedback has been amazing, please keep it coming! One of the things we've been asked is for the option to use something other than meters as a unit of measurement. This is a great suggestion and I wanted give you an idea of what we're thinking so you could let us know if it would be a good fit for you.
Option Home Screen What do you think?
- snowySuper Contributor
Yes I predominantly use 2 different branches.
- Doodler_Benji
1Password Team
Love these follow up scenarios snowy!
Thank you - snowySuper Contributor
Codes - garage and gates. My in laws have both and when I get there I need them both and work codes for gettting into a building I have handle of notes that explain how to enter. Ie swap enter code or enter code at first door than swipe at next door etc..
Bank/credit union account number - when I show up to make a deposit surfacing a list possible user selected set of the various accounts
Membership QR barcodes - not sure this is a thing that would work but places that use bar codes or whatever for loyalty programs if they popped up at the gocery store or pharmacy or gym
- Doodler_Benji
1Password Team
Hey norysang,
I'm genuinely grateful for all of your insightful feedback and suggestions, which I agree would be solid improvements to adding locations to items in 1Password.
The idea of multiple locations per item opens up a lot of possibilities for customisation and efficiency, and as you've seen, you're definitely not alone in this request. Labelling these locations with a menu to shortcut into filtering down the items at a location is also a thoughtful touch. I especially want to call out that I appreciate your comment on the 'custom area', not only a radius. This is a UX design I've loved in property search sites and totally see the benefit and use cases, in addition to you kindly providing them. It's a super smart suggestion, and I thank you!
Also, cheers for the bonus feedback/request of generating barcodes for membership cards. We have many ideas bubbling away within the team for the potential of location additions, and memberships are a popular topic of conversation, as you can imagine.
Your and everyone's input here is incredibly valuable, and I'm looking forward to exploring these ideas further.
Happy New Year to you, and once more - thanks!
Benji