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1P_MattG
1Password Team
2 years agoExperiment #3 - Nearby Items
Hi y'all!
I can't believe we are already shipping Experiment 3?! This one has a very special place in my heart. This project actually came out of a Hackday we did internally. Everyone was SOOOO excited about it, we wanted to share it with our users to get your feedback.
Nearby Items allows you to assign a location to an item. Then, on mobile only for now, we've added a section to the home tab that shows you items that are close to you physically. Pretty awesome, right?
The basic hypothesis here is that because people are more and more mobile, the items you need quick access to might be different based on where you are in the world. If your building at work has a door code, we'll show you that when you pull up. If you've got a storage shed, we'll show you the combo to the lock when you arrive.
This experiment is our first exploration into physical space. We know we're not "done" but wanted to get early feedback to help shape how this project evolves from here.
We're eager to hear your thoughts on Nearby Items. Let us know what you think below in this thread.
The primary questions I'm trying to answer are:
Does adding a location to an item help you get things done faster and with less friction? Do you see value in continuing to explore physical locations for items in any form?
What are the use cases where you think having an item's physical location would be valuable? We have some ideas, but I'm sure there are tons of things we aren't even thinking about.
This is a v1. If we continue to work on Nearby Items, what should we add, change, or modify to make it more valuable to you as a user?
Does it make sense to also show "nearby items" on Desktop computers?
Do you think that the current form of Nearby Items is good enough to ship in the Stable product?
88 Replies
- norysangFrequent Contributor
I am very excited about the feature, but it could be much more useful with additional customization options. Many great ideas have already been mentioned by previous commentators, but I would like to add a few more thoughts to these ideas.
I definitely need the ability to assign multiple locations to an item. This would be very useful, for example, for doctor visits where I need to access the same documents but visit different doctors in various locations. Same is true for bank card details, e.g. when visiting the ATM.
In my opinion, another idea is closely related to having multiple locations per item: assigning labels to locations and collapsing maps. If an item has, for instance, 10 locations, it can quickly become overwhelming when all of these are shown at the bottom of an item. It would be great if, with more than one location, all maps were "collapsed" by default, showing only the title of the location. This way, one could quickly review and grasp the list of all linked locations.
Assigning a radius has already been mentioned. I would like to expand on this idea and suggest not only a radius around a point but also propose "free forms." This could be achieved by combining multiple points with their radii (essentially multiple locations within a location with overlapping radii) or, even better, a boundary line (e.g., around a college campus) that can be self-defined. My personal use case for this would be the university campus that is widespread and weirdly shaped, therefore not really covered by a fixed point with a e.g. 400 metre radius.
Being able to filter items based on whether a location is linked and, if so, which location is linked, would also be great. 1Password already has too limited filtering options, and this should be expanded in general. I would also love to see a menu with all locations that have been assigned to any number of items with the option to add more items by bulk-selecting multiple items. Basically the other way around: adding a location (or opening an existing one) and assigning items instead of opening an item and assigning locations.
Another idea is to link a whole account or item collections to a location. I have three 1Password accounts in my app: a private one, one for work, and one for an organization where I volunteer. When I am at home, I mostly need only the private items; when I am at work, primarily the work-related items. Additionally, I have collections that include vaults from multiple accounts.
You asked for use cases where these things would be useful. For me, they include:
- Accessing my health insurance card when I visit one of my doctors
- Retrieving my bank's PIN card when withdrawing money
- Using bonus and membership cards while shopping, at the swimming pool, etc.
- Access codes for entrance doors of buildingsIn this context, there's another idea that could be useful in connection with locations: storing membership card numbers in a way that a barcode can be generated and displayed. This could be implemented, for example, by adding a menu item "Show Barcode" in the long-tap menu, alongside "Show Large Type," which would represent a number as a barcode. For instance, at the swimming pool, I have a physical card with a barcode, currently stored as a photo in 1Password. If I could display this card based on location, I could scan the barcode digitally instead of using a photo.
- Doodler_Benji
1Password Team
🎉 Happy new year to you gauravjain312!
Thanks so much for these additional pointers, I appreciate you diving further in to how this could work with ATM's, and having items shown per location like home1, home2 etc.
1P_MattG and others have got these noted in our backlog! ✨[edited to include...]
To follow up, when you mention "Support on Windows 10 and 11 laptops" are you seeking map support here? Our macOS, Windows and Linux apps all have the same support right now.There are going to be some great additions dropping soon to give the 'desktop clients' more useful additions for locations than simply being able to view/copy coords to a location added by mobile apps, but due to our firm stance on security and privacy by design, map support is not on desktop is not possible yet.
- gauravjain312New Contributor
This is a very interesting feature. I would like to see support for the below use cases
- Support Multiple locations for an item.
- Support on Windows 10 and 11 laptops
- Multiple location names like Home1, Home2 for different items. When I am at Home1, show only items for Home1.
- Ability to see only a particular entry in an item at a particular location. e.g. I go to an ATM to withdraw cash. I should only see the ATM PIN for my bank account in the location instead of all the particular bank account settings. currently, this is possible by pinning a PIN to the home screen in the Android app but location will be a better implementation.
- 1P_MattG
1Password Team
Ahh, ok. That makes total sense. Will add this to our backlog. Thank you!
- guillaume0New Contributor
I also like the idea of hiding the nearby items menu if there's nothing to show. Do you see this as hiding the menu completely? That would remove the ability to change the search radius.
Actually, I was only thinking of hiding the illustration displayed when there's no item. It is nice, but also takes quite a lot of space on the home page. If you choose to minimize the section to hide it, then you also hide nearby items when they do exist. That's only a minor detail though.
Hiding the menu completely was not what I thought about, but it could be feasible if the search radius becomes item-specific.
- 1P_Tommy
Moderator
@1Passerby
this is what I do also for my entries with attachments as it's easier to read: Attachment 📎 Location 📍
I've done this (icons) for a large portion of my items recently. I couldn't agree more that it's so much easier to read. Thank you for the pin icon idea. I'm going to put it to use right now. Much appreciated.
- Doodler_Benji
1Password Team
@1Passerby Great feedback also! Being able to filter items or at least sort them if they have a location added is something we've heard and definitely would like to include also. The idea of adding a marker to the item name is pretty neat, thanks for sharing that spark of inspiration!
Will certainly pass on the request for the the search update!
Wishing you the best for the new year!
- Former Member
Great feature!
I echo the suggestions above (e.g. multiple locations for the same item, Home/Work etc. category) and add one request/suggestion:
- Being able to identify which entries have been associated with a location, for example by automatically adding a tag to that entry or an emoji (this is what I do also for my entries with attachments as it's easier to read: Attachment 📎 Location 📍)
This allows to easily spot which entries have a location, which not.
Alternatively (for Mac OS only), bring back the function allowing to search all items with location/attachment, which has been removed some time ago.
1Passerby
- 1P_MattG
1Password Team
This is great feedback. I hadn't thought about setting a radius per item. That's an interesting one and I can see the value. I also like the idea of hiding the nearby items menu if there's nothing to show. Do you see this as hiding the menu completely? That would remove the ability to change the search radius.
- guillaume0New Contributor
This is a very interesting feature. Here are a few suggestions:
- The ability to assign multiple locations to a given item.
- A way to easily pick current location (doesn't seem feasible on Android).
- Being able to set the radius per item and not app-wide: I would like to have my university account visible on the whole campus, while my home Wifi password is only relevant when I'm close to my router.
- To have the nearby items menu automatically retracted when there's no nearby item and unfolded otherwise.
Thanks!