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1P_MattG
1Password Team
2 years agoExperiment #3 - Nearby Items
Hi y'all!
I can't believe we are already shipping Experiment 3?! This one has a very special place in my heart. This project actually came out of a Hackday we did internally. Everyone was SOOOO excited about it, we wanted to share it with our users to get your feedback.
Nearby Items allows you to assign a location to an item. Then, on mobile only for now, we've added a section to the home tab that shows you items that are close to you physically. Pretty awesome, right?
The basic hypothesis here is that because people are more and more mobile, the items you need quick access to might be different based on where you are in the world. If your building at work has a door code, we'll show you that when you pull up. If you've got a storage shed, we'll show you the combo to the lock when you arrive.
This experiment is our first exploration into physical space. We know we're not "done" but wanted to get early feedback to help shape how this project evolves from here.
We're eager to hear your thoughts on Nearby Items. Let us know what you think below in this thread.
The primary questions I'm trying to answer are:
Does adding a location to an item help you get things done faster and with less friction? Do you see value in continuing to explore physical locations for items in any form?
What are the use cases where you think having an item's physical location would be valuable? We have some ideas, but I'm sure there are tons of things we aren't even thinking about.
This is a v1. If we continue to work on Nearby Items, what should we add, change, or modify to make it more valuable to you as a user?
Does it make sense to also show "nearby items" on Desktop computers?
Do you think that the current form of Nearby Items is good enough to ship in the Stable product?
88 Replies
- pleaseopensource1pNew Contributor
Interesting feature! Could you please explain the privacy approach of this feature? For example, is my location only processed on-device or is my location history sent to 1p?
Thanks!
- Doodler_Benji
1Password Team
Very peculiar - we were not able to replicate it yet, so if it does reoccur please let us know.
Glad all is behaving as intended again, cheers Larry! - LarryMcJSuper Contributor
Well, whatever it was, it fixed itself. I haven't changed anything in 1Password, but I just noticed it's now working as expected. The only thing that did change was the 1P Safari extension update two days ago, if it might be somehow linked.
- Doodler_Benji
1Password Team
Hey LarryMcJ, this doesn't sound right at all. Thanks for letting us know, we're discussing it now and will be back in touch!
- LarryMcJSuper Contributor
Kind of annoying that every time I close 1Password in macOS, it opens Apple Maps (for no apparent reason), which I than have to close. I have Nearby Places enabled for one item in 1Password.
- zaengerleinNew Contributor
Great feature - it please allow for multiple locations.
- Doodler_Benji
1Password Team
@johnjamesjacoby Thanks for the follow-up, no apology needed for the additional context. I like to absorb and gather as much understanding as I can to grow an inclusive mindset. While I don't foresee us making changes to item(s) anytime soon as you've mentioned, I do like how you're pushing us with this thought challenge. It's these moments that help us craft a more meaningful and richer calibre of output.
Cheers!
- Anonymous
Doodler_Benji đđ
is there another term that has been resonating with you for a collective of mixed items within your 1Password? This is certainly something that now you've mentioned has got me wondering if others may have been thinking and its worth exploring.
Back when 1PW was just passwords, I would call them passwords đ but as capabilities expanded I switched to intentionally using phrases like âclick the plus and select âLoginââ instead of âcreate a new passwordâ â but once âenteredâ they became an âentryâ in my mind, like in a journal or logbook, each new entry was a quantum wrapper for interacting with whatever it was pointed towards.
The 1PW apps are quite clear and consistent about entries being âItemsâ everywhere: sheets, help texts, labels, buttons, navs, etc⌠but in the âreal worldâ outside of the 1PW app an âItemâ in my Apple world mind already means a physical item (like a backpack, bike, pet, computer, keys, onewheel, etcâŚ)
And that consistency is why I love & use 1PW. It reduces cognitive load which I think is a critical aspect of making the world secure by default.
I canât imagine yâall renaming âItemsâ everywhere internally. What a chore. Not just apps, but docs history & screenshots & stuff too. And potentially confuses the folks who either do not care, didnât notice, or like/prefer âItemâ and wonât like that it changed to âEntry.â
The only thing Iâd experiment with internally, if I were on the 1PW engineering team, is to remove âItemâ entirely and not refer to the collective as anything, instead opting to use more descriptive language or omitting labels entirely (like below the very bottom toolbar nav icons) and then only-ever falling back to âEntryâ as a last resort â but still consistently â and kaboshing âItemâ from the company lexicon đ
And to be fair about it, I can see how âEntryâ isnât perfect either, because it unintentionally flips the emphasis away from ThE tHiNg back inwards towards 1Passwordâs own things.
(Also, my apologies for the minor thread hi-jack đ)
- Anonymous
@JefeBato it represents their asking for user permission to interface with the Maps apps.
They did this their own way because neither of the native map apps (in iOS nor Android) have their own GUI for that specific allowance. They both DO have a privacy setting for tracking, but the Maps apps are fully open and permission is not ârequiredâ. The 1PW team is going the extra mile here. đ
With it unchecked to off, when you attempt to add a location to an Item it looks like this:
- Anonymous
"Google Maps" (Android)? What does this Boolean setting do/enable?
Apologies for the dumb question! A search returned no hits on 1password.community.