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Max_ag
1Password Team
2 years agoExperiment #4 – New interface in 1Password.com’s vault view
Hi Folks!
Today we’re bringing you a beta version of a major update to the vault item view interface on 1Password.com. Our goal is to align the design with the main desktop application as well as improve our ability to introduce new features consistently across all of our platforms.
Unlike previous experimental features in labs, you are not required to manually enable this experiment, and it will not appear under the “Labs” tab in the 1Password apps. As this is an updated vault item view of our web interface, you can access it directly via this link.
At this time, the new interface provides a read-only version, which means it is limited in functionality compared to the current interface. We wanted to start testing as early as possible to identify any potential issues well in advance of a full rollout. Full functionality that aligns with the current vault item view interface will be gradually introduced over the next couple of months as we continue testing and developing.
The primary questions I'm trying to answer are:
1. Do you prefer this new interface over the old one?
2. Do you see value in us rolling out this new interface of the vault item view to all 1Password users?
3. Are you experiencing any performance issues?
4. How often do you use the vault item view in 1Password.com?
We are eager to hear what you think about this new web interface. Please share your feedback and thoughts below in the thread!
Updates
Jun 20
- Added Watchtower
- Added a link to the admin dashboard from the vaults menu
- Added "What's New" to the help menu, which links to our new release notes page
- Added vaults in quick find results
- Improved performance when loading an account with many vaults
May 16
- Added ability to share items
- Added item sharing history
- Recently Deleted now limits deleted items to the last 30 days
May 2
- Added support for viewing item history
Apr 15
- Added support for creating and editing items
- Added categories back to the sidebar
Feb 15
- Fixed part of the issue firebeyer mentioned with custom item categories. Right now all custom categories will be grouped together under "Others", and we'll be fully supporting active custom categories soon.
- Group and sort categories in the item list filter menu to match the desktop apps.
Feb 6
- Began supporting localization for the 12 languages already supported in the rest of the web app and other apps. There are some tasks remaining there.
- Maintain the last item list sort order throughout the app and across page reload.
- Show an alert popup when encountering unexpected errors, to hopefully avoid just showing a blank screen like norysang reported.
- Squashed some minor bugs.
530 Replies
- peanuts9144New Contributor
I don't like that it's showing 'generated password' as a separate item eg attached - used red pen to cover confidential info
- Revel1080New Contributor
I find the font size in the beta to be almost unusable as it is too small. Can I assume that I will be able to change the font size as in days of yor??
Also, I hope the new 1Password will remove the bug that requires me to completely shut down my computer in order to reopen 1Password after I had closed it a short time before. To add insult to injury, if I shut down your app on a Firefox (Mozilla) browser extension, the 1Password extension on the Brave browser also won't reopen afterwards. Clearly the sync is not helpful in this case. Past recommendations to resolve the problem have not worked .
- MerryBitDedicated Contributor
Creating a new Document item fails consistently.
- tcollinsNew Contributor
1P_Rob Yes, you understood the general intent. Either to create a new nested tag, or to edit an existing tag to make it nested... but the nesting was the intent. Thanks.
One question, is there a preferred browser? Using latest Firefox, and am unable to "Take a Look" at the latest UI, as I just get a spinning wheel of death and nothing ever re-loads.
- MerryBitDedicated Contributor
1P_Rob I believe what Former Member is referring to is missing image previews of images in the web interface. In the new interface, like in the apps, you have to download a document in order to view it. For image items, a preview was displayed in the browser or app directly. I miss this feature, too.
- sweeksNew Contributor
Our family has about ten vaults.
I highly value having the same interface to my data on every platform I am accessing from (iPhone app, iPad app, Mac app, web page, browser extension, ...). So, collections everywhere or collections nowhere.
- sweeksNew Contributor
I have a family plan. I have one vault holding most of my items and a second vault that is shared with another family member. The view that I usually want is the set of items in both of those vaults. So I have a collection for those two vaults. And in the apps, I typically have that collection selected. In the browser extension, I can't select the collection, so I have to select the same two vaults. On the website, I'm not aware of a mechanism for selecting a collection or multiple vaults.
- 1P_Rob
1Password Team
Me again! Thanks for another month of great feedback on the new experience.
In general, note that the focus for the first version of this new experience is updating the look and feel to match the desktop apps while getting everything working at least as well as it was in the old experience. There are many things the desktop apps support that won't come immediately to the web because they already weren't on the web. Those are things that we'll bring iteratively after we remove the old experience.
Once again, I've extracted a long document of feedback to share with our product team, but I've pulled out some specific comments to reply to here. Let me know if I missed anything that needs a reply.
If you missed my last message, we now have the ability to create and edit items! This will reduce confusion for a large percentage of you. We've already found a few new bugs in this version that we'll be fixing soon. 🤞
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Item history is next on our list, in addition to continued bug fixes and polish. And to clarify, our goal is to have full feature parity with the old web experience before we remove it, including history, sharing, and Watchtower.
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There seems to be a problem with the UI and loading images
Former Member I believe what you're missing is custom icons, icons you have added yourself. If so, that's currently to be expected, but it's on our list. 👍
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For me, the menu "All items" -> "All Categories" would be more useful, if by default is ordered by categories, not by date/name/oldest/newest. I realize, that from the drop-down menu a category could be selected, but I'd go for an alphabetically-ordered approach even from the main menu. This way, one can find an item, even though if he doesn't know which category to look for.
bezgrizen you can sort your items alphabetically, and we've just added categories to the sidebar. Does this help with what you're trying to do? If not, can you help me understand your use case better?
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I like that it mirrors the app, that said, I do appreciate the current web look and find that it is sometimes easier to navigate. I like the clean segregation of vaults but easy access to each.
AlwaysSortaCurious Can you elaborate on "clean segregation of vaults but easy access to each"? The new design preserves the ability to switch between vaults. The menu has just moved to the top left corner.
I can't collapse the far left sidebar or the other side bar, they seem to narrow down to a set width and no further
filniculescu that is strange. There are no buttons to collapse the sidebar, but if you make your browser window very narrow, it collapses automatically.
On your web UI, I can select my shared vault and then Credit Cards at which point I only see the credit cards in that vault. In my Mac app, I can either see all entries in the Shared vault OR all credit cards in all vaults.
jimmyjayp yeah, this is a new experiment for us. We may be able to improve the desktop app along these lines in the future, but there are a variety of use cases to consider. That said, in the Mac app, if you select a vault in the sidebar, you can already filter that list from "All Categories" down to just "Credit Cards". Hope that helps.
I am not a fan of seeing only the most recently used login items under each category as is presented in the mobile app view. I prefer to see all login items under each category.
grogan3107 I'm not quite following this. We don't have a view in the web app that includes only the most recently used items.
Could we please update the interface to be able to tag items more easily? Something like right click an item > add to existing tag or create new tag.
lsimms101 We don't have this in the web app yet, but in the desktop app, you can drag and drop items onto tags in the sidebar. Drag and drop tagging will probably come to the web in the future.
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There is a weird arrow artifact that shows up on the right hand side of the interface when an entry is moused over. It doesn't appear to do anything other than just show up.
jeremysawesome Thanks for this report! I can't seem to reproduce the behavior myself. Can you check again in the latest version? If it's still there, can you tell me what OS and browser versions you are using?
When I open 1Passwod using the icon at the top right in Firefox, the "All Items" list allows me to select an "Open and Fill" option just by hovering over an item and clicking in that area. This behavior is not there when I have 1Password open as a tab on the browser. I have to select the item, then move the mouse over to the website section, hover, then move my mouse over the "Open" button area and finally click to open the site. Is there a reason the tab view can't have the same behavior as when I use the little icon at the top right corner of the browser?
deadeyeDave our browser extension is designed for interaction with other web pages, but the primary purpose of the web app itself is to manage your data. One note on the workflow you described, you can actually click anywhere on the website field to open it. You don't need to click on "Open and fill" specifically.
The new web UI being closer to the desktop app is going to be great. However, the one thing I will miss is I used the web UI to see the vaults with their respective counts of how many items they have. Silly little thing, but would like to know if that's possible with the new Web UI? (or if I could already do this in the app?)
matthewboniface while it's not visible at a glance across every vault, if you click into any vault, you can see the item count in two locations: in the list sorting menu at the top and at the very bottom of the item list itself.
Add the ability to place a sub-tag of a tag (tags within tags).
tcollins am I understanding correctly that you'd like the ability to take an existing tag and move it to be a child of another tag?
Right now, the new web interface doesn't support editing tags, but the desktop app does. If you right-click on a tag and select "Rename Tag", you can add
Server/to the front to make it nested under theServertag. In general any tag in the formata/bwill show up in the sidebar withbas a sub-tag ofa.I miss collections in the website and browser extensions.
sweeks I'd love to hear how you use collections! This is a feature that has seen extremely low usage. Internally we mostly use it for separating out our test data from our real data, which isn't really something most people do. What's your workflow like?
I repeatedly enter a search term in the title of a saved item only to not find it and I spend an annoying amount of time finding that item that I know is in my vault!
Larrio are you finding this to be worse in the new experience than in the old one? Or has this always been a problem on the web?
That's a wrap for now. As before, feel free to leave another comment if I missed your question.
- alongchampsNew Contributor
Thanks for the updates! I think the only thing I would change is to have the search results filter as I type. This is how the Safari extension works now and also how the old interface worked. Even if that's just an option, I would turn it on!
I do see in the new interface that I can hit enter to search based on the text that's entered, but there's a 'return' icon on the first row. This makes it seem like if you hit enter, you'll be taken to the first item and not filter on all results, which is the bottom row in the drop down.