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Former Member
4 years agoFeature Request: PIN code to unlock
PIN unlock code Has the PIN unlock code been dropped in the new 1password 8 version? Without biometric features, I have to enter my long password all the time?
1Password Version: 8
Extension Version: Not Provided
OS Version: Android 11
Browser:_ Chrome
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52 Replies
- 1P_Timothy
Community Manager
Thank you both for sharing your feedback, +1's have been added.
@5davee, if you have previously installed 1Password 7 and still have access to the account that was used to do so in Google Play, 1Password 7 may still be available with these steps:
1. Open Google Play Store on your Android device.
2. Tap the account icon in the search bar and select the account used to install 1Password 7.
3. From the same menu, tap Manage apps and device.
4. Tap Manage.
5. Tap the Installed drop down.
6. Tap Not Installed.
7. Search for and select 1Password.
8. Tap Install.In some version of Google Play, the steps are slightly different. After tapping your account icon if you see My apps & games you can follow these steps instead: tap My apps & games > Library > Not on this device > Search for and select 1Password 7 > Install.
@semloh99, for copying fields we would like to unify the behavior across apps and pins. While I don't have a timeline to share we are looking into changing the workflow from what it currently is in item view with 1Password 8 for Android (tap > copy). Thanks again!
- Former Member
Going backwards. Also lost long press for Copy of 1Password fields.
Major regression of 2 features that I used all day every day. - Former Member
The lack of the PIN option in 1Password 8 is a major flaw. I donāt want to use biometrics and having to enter my master password every time is awful. I foolishly removed 1Password 7 before I noticed the lack of this feature. I regret the upgrade and thereās no way back.
If itās so hard to reintroduce this feature, perhaps you could make 1Password 7 available again for download.
Add a +1 from me to reintroduce PIN.
- 1P_Timothy
Community Manager
Hi @WWisey, thanks for sharing your feedback. I've passed it along to the team and added your +1.
- 1P_Timothy
Community Manager
Thanks for the detailed feedback @djdanlib! You make an excellent case for a PIN unlock option. Sorry to hear about the boot loop and injured finger! I've added a summary of your feedback to our internal feature request and added your +1.
If something like case # 1 comes up you can temporarily extend the Auto-Lock on Exit setting from Settings > Security. Doing so allows 1Password to stay unlocked while you switch between apps or lock and unlock your phone. For case # 2, depending on the extent of the incident, enrolling a different fingerprint could help in this situation. Either way, my suggestions do not invalidate your points. I just wanted to add some additional options for anyone else who may be reading along.
Thanks again!
- Former Member
Hard to use face unlock if your missing part of your face, and not all devices have fingerprint scanners, please bring back the PIN.
- Former Member
What happened to the PIN in lieu of biometric login? My tablet has no fingerprint scanner and face unlock is not an option. So my only option would be to either enter my master password (32+ characters) everytime or set auto lock on exit to allow it to stay unlocked during use. Seems like a step backwards. Going to keep using version 7 until this gets resolved.
- Former Member
I've recently installed version 8 on Android, since it was such a major improvement on my Windows machines. Most of the new stuff is great and all, but I echo the posters here. The PIN (within a timeout) feature is sorely missed. Here are a few use cases.
Case 1: I recently got stuck in a BitLocker boot loop while repairing a laptop, and having to enter my 1password master password every couple of minutes to retrieve the BitLocker key I'd stored in there was a pretty bad experience.
Case 2: I injured my finger in an unfortunate accident, and this made it unrecognizable to previously-trained biometrics (when not in a protective apparatus.) It also makes typing quite error-prone. Using a PIN would have made the software much more accessible rather than retyping the password several times when I need to get in. This fed into case 1, by the way, which happened about a week after the injury...
Case 3: Feature parity with desktop. I can use Windows Hello on my PCs, which is much quicker.
Case 4: Enterprising youngsters in my friends' families have taken advantage of a napping adult and fingerprint unlocked purchasing and spent a lot of money on in-game purchases. I can see this sort of thing happening here as well, for example if online ordering or parental control passwords are locked up in 1password but they can swipe a sleeping finger to access them. You can change a PIN regularly, but you only have so many fingers. Yes, parenting plays a role, but kids will always have occasional impulse control issues.
Case 5: The fourth/fifth amendment case against biometrics is interesting since I do travel with my phone, and it is legal that I could be compelled by force by authorities at the border to unlock it with biometrics, to (for example) access social media or banking information. Not that I have anything to worry about there but it's the principle. We're in the pre-Internet age here in the US when it comes to private property laws. I could imagine a professional pickpocket being able to catch a sly swipe but that is admittedly getting a little far-fetched.
- 1P_Timothy
Community Manager
Hi @ytsirklin, psiclopz. Thanks for sharing your feedback, it has been noted along with +1s.
I'm very sorry to hear this has been a sticking point for you. If there's anything else we can help with at this time, just let us know.
- psiclopzNew Contributor
I will also be uninstalling V8 and returning to v7 until pin code is reimplemented. I am not going to enter my 30+ char master password every time, nor will I just set the auto lock to never, nor will I "ever" use biometrics.