I may be a little late to the party and so far haven't tried to use it. I, of course, don't know all the history and logic behind where it's at, but here goes.
Having an editor that can handle for...
I really appreciate the time you took to respond to me. And I'm definitely more enlightened that I was before...
Instead of separate teams being responsible for each platform we support, each working on their own schedule and codebase, we've moved to feature/function area-based teams with a unified core codebase.
Glad to hear that. This has been a source of frustration at times. I welcome the effort.
We plan to narrow those gaps in the future, but they are large time-intensive projects.
I can appreciate that it is very time-intensive. I believe you will get much better user satisfaction after all the dust has settled.
We chose markdown because that accounted for the substantial volume of customer requests. E.g.:
Was this just from the most vocal users, or were you able to run a survey to see what editor features are most wanted?
I think getting the WYSIWYG going is important. I, for one, won't use Markdown in Notes until I don't have to learn a new formatting syntax that I'll rarely use.
I just tried it out and if you copy/paste the text out of 1P the formatting is lost. To me this is an issue. In Mozilla Thunderbird you can copy from Word or a browser and paste into a message and the formatting is retained (or chose to paste without formatting). This is just a quick test I ran so I'm sure there are things I've missed. This is what I'd expect from an editor today. I just tried it and formatting is not retained going the other way either.
I have a very frustrating incompatibility among platforms on the PIM app I use. In this case they introduced Tables into the desktop app, but neglected to do it on Android. And when I use bidirectional sync, the Androd wipes out the Tables on the desktop. Not cool.
But the PIM app does retain similar formatting to and from other apps, like Word.
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Having an editor that can handle formatting at it's level of formatting is great! But I find the following limitations: \n* Why, in this day and age, do we have to live with embedding actual formatting syntax into a document? And another format syntax to learn! At least from a Windows (primarily), Android (limited editing), and Apple (limited editing) user. I surmise that there are plenty of editing apps that are WYSIWYG that can accomplish all that with a formatting tool bar and such. \n* Why not license one (if needed) and integrate it into your apps? Why not use a more standard rtf editor? \n* Why do you continue to introduce major features piecemeal across all the devices you support? No doubt it's a resource constraint. I could be wrong but this will inevitability lead to slow adoption and frustration because of the issues moving the data among the devices. I've already read several posts describing just this issue. I would hold off releasing it until it's completed for the majority of the devices.
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I may be a little late to the party and so far haven't tried to use it. I, of course, don't know all the history and logic behind where it's at, but here goes.
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Having an editor that can handle formatting at it's level of formatting is great! But I find the following limitations: \n* Why, in this day and age, do we have to live with embedding actual formatting syntax into a document? And another format syntax to learn! At least from a Windows (primarily), Android (limited editing), and Apple (limited editing) user. I surmise that there are plenty of editing apps that are WYSIWYG that can accomplish all that with a formatting tool bar and such. \n* Why not license one (if needed) and integrate it into your apps? Why not use a more standard rtf editor? \n* Why do you continue to introduce major features piecemeal across all the devices you support? No doubt it's a resource constraint. I could be wrong but this will inevitability lead to slow adoption and frustration because of the issues moving the data among the devices. I've already read several posts describing just this issue. I would hold off releasing it until it's completed for the majority of the devices.
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Thanks for hearing me on this and I welcome becoming enlightened (well, on this subject it's at least possible).
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I really appreciate the time you took to respond to me. And I'm definitely more enlightened that I was before...
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Instead of separate teams being responsible for each platform we support, each working on their own schedule and codebase, we've moved to feature/function area-based teams with a unified core codebase. \nGlad to hear that. This has been a source of frustration at times. I welcome the effort. \nWe plan to narrow those gaps in the future, but they are large time-intensive projects. \nI can appreciate that it is very time-intensive. I believe you will get much better user satisfaction after all the dust has settled. \nWe chose markdown because that accounted for the substantial volume of customer requests. E.g.: \nWas this just from the most vocal users, or were you able to run a survey to see what editor features are most wanted? \nI think getting the WYSIWYG going is important. I, for one, won't use Markdown in Notes until I don't have to learn a new formatting syntax that I'll rarely use. \nI just tried it out and if you copy/paste the text out of 1P the formatting is lost. To me this is an issue. In Mozilla Thunderbird you can copy from Word or a browser and paste into a message and the formatting is retained (or chose to paste without formatting). This is just a quick test I ran so I'm sure there are things I've missed. This is what I'd expect from an editor today. I just tried it and formatting is not retained going the other way either.
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I have a very frustrating incompatibility among platforms on the PIM app I use. In this case they introduced Tables into the desktop app, but neglected to do it on Android. And when I use bidirectional sync, the Androd wipes out the Tables on the desktop. Not cool.
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But the PIM app does retain similar formatting to and from other apps, like Word.
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I really appreciate the time you took to respond to me. And I'm definitely more enlightened that I was before...
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Instead of separate teams being responsible for each platform we support, each working on their own schedule and codebase, we've moved to feature/function area-based teams with a unified core codebase. \nGlad to hear that. This has been a source of frustration at times. I welcome the effort. \nWe plan to narrow those gaps in the future, but they are large time-intensive projects. \nI can appreciate that it is very time-intensive. I believe you will get much better user satisfaction after all the dust has settled. \nWe chose markdown because that accounted for the substantial volume of customer requests. E.g.: \nWas this just from the most vocal users, or were you able to run a survey to see what editor features are most wanted? \nI think getting the WYSIWYG going is important. I, for one, won't use Markdown in Notes until I don't have to learn a new formatting syntax that I'll rarely use. \nI just tried it out and if you copy/paste the text out of 1P the formatting is lost. To me this is an issue. In Mozilla Thunderbird you can copy from Word or a browser and paste into a message and the formatting is retained (or chose to paste without formatting). This is just a quick test I ran so I'm sure there are things I've missed. This is what I'd expect from an editor today. I just tried it and formatting is not retained going the other way either.
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I have a very frustrating incompatibility among platforms on the PIM app I use. In this case they introduced Tables into the desktop app, but neglected to do it on Android. And when I use bidirectional sync, the Androd wipes out the Tables on the desktop. Not cool.
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But the PIM app does retain similar formatting to and from other apps, like Word.
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