Are standalone vaults supported in 1Password 8?
Can you import standalone vaults from 1Password 7 without signing up for the online service?
Can you create new standalone vaults in 1Password 8?...
@Maesitos I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from on this one.
Without a standalone license and access to local vaults you are a step away from being potentially cancelled from your own passwords. 1password might be great and have perfect servers but nothing stops them from blocking the access to their app and/or your data.
This isn't true. Even if we were to cancel your subscription (which would stop updates to your data from syncing between devices), your data is cached locally on your device. To be more specific, your data is cached on every individual device where you have installed the 1Password app and logged in.
The unlock (decryption) process also happens entirely locally, which means that we have no ability to stop you from accessing your cached data. All the decryption happens on your devices, which is by design, for your privacy and security. It is entirely in your hands.
That volatile cache will not cut it for someone that has for example a couple million USD worth of cryptocurrency.
Again, I'm not sure I understand the argument here. If someone is using a standalone vault, that is also a "volatile" cache that can be lost if something happens to the device (and, judging by the stories I've heard from folks in the cryptocurrency world, this happens ... kind of a lot).
If they do keep backups of the "volatile cache", that's sensible. But 1Password already provides the ability to do this automatically by syncing your data between devices and instantiating an individual local database on every device where you're using 1Password.
So to recap:
Even in situations where someone's account is cancelled, the data remains in the user's hands and we have no way to block access to it
Decryption happens entirely locally
We don't hold and don't want to hold the keys that are necessary to decrypt your data
The 1Password.com service provides automatic syncing between devices, which is a form of data resilience
But feel free to let me know if I'm misinterpreting your objection, or there's something we haven't covered. We take your privacy and security very seriously, and have no interest in making you "dependent" - only secure and in control of your data.
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Are standalone vaults supported in 1Password 8? \nCan you import standalone vaults from 1Password 7 without signing up for the online service? \nCan you create new standalone vaults in 1Password 8?
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1Password Version: 8 \nExtension Version: Not Provided \nOS Version: Windows 11 x64
Are standalone vaults supported in 1Password 8? \nCan you import standalone vaults from 1Password 7 without signing up for the online service? \nCan you create new standalone vaults in 1Password 8?
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1Password Version: 8 \nExtension Version: Not Provided \nOS Version: Windows 11 x64
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@Maesitos I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from on this one.
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Without a standalone license and access to local vaults you are a step away from being potentially cancelled from your own passwords. 1password might be great and have perfect servers but nothing stops them from blocking the access to their app and/or your data.
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This isn't true. Even if we were to cancel your subscription (which would stop updates to your data from syncing between devices), your data is cached locally on your device. To be more specific, your data is cached on every individual device where you have installed the 1Password app and logged in.
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The unlock (decryption) process also happens entirely locally, which means that we have no ability to stop you from accessing your cached data. All the decryption happens on your devices, which is by design, for your privacy and security. It is entirely in your hands.
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That volatile cache will not cut it for someone that has for example a couple million USD worth of cryptocurrency.
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Again, I'm not sure I understand the argument here. If someone is using a standalone vault, that is also a \"volatile\" cache that can be lost if something happens to the device (and, judging by the stories I've heard from folks in the cryptocurrency world, this happens ... kind of a lot).
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If they do keep backups of the \"volatile cache\", that's sensible. But 1Password already provides the ability to do this automatically by syncing your data between devices and instantiating an individual local database on every device where you're using 1Password.
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So to recap:
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Even in situations where someone's account is cancelled, the data remains in the user's hands and we have no way to block access to it
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Decryption happens entirely locally
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We don't hold and don't want to hold the keys that are necessary to decrypt your data
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The 1Password.com service provides automatic syncing between devices, which is a form of data resilience
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But feel free to let me know if I'm misinterpreting your objection, or there's something we haven't covered. We take your privacy and security very seriously, and have no interest in making you \"dependent\" - only secure and in control of your data.
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@Maesitos I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from on this one.
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Without a standalone license and access to local vaults you are a step away from being potentially cancelled from your own passwords. 1password might be great and have perfect servers but nothing stops them from blocking the access to their app and/or your data.
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This isn't true. Even if we were to cancel your subscription (which would stop updates to your data from syncing between devices), your data is cached locally on your device. To be more specific, your data is cached on every individual device where you have installed the 1Password app and logged in.
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The unlock (decryption) process also happens entirely locally, which means that we have no ability to stop you from accessing your cached data. All the decryption happens on your devices, which is by design, for your privacy and security. It is entirely in your hands.
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That volatile cache will not cut it for someone that has for example a couple million USD worth of cryptocurrency.
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Again, I'm not sure I understand the argument here. If someone is using a standalone vault, that is also a \"volatile\" cache that can be lost if something happens to the device (and, judging by the stories I've heard from folks in the cryptocurrency world, this happens ... kind of a lot).
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If they do keep backups of the \"volatile cache\", that's sensible. But 1Password already provides the ability to do this automatically by syncing your data between devices and instantiating an individual local database on every device where you're using 1Password.
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So to recap:
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Even in situations where someone's account is cancelled, the data remains in the user's hands and we have no way to block access to it
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Decryption happens entirely locally
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We don't hold and don't want to hold the keys that are necessary to decrypt your data
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The 1Password.com service provides automatic syncing between devices, which is a form of data resilience
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But feel free to let me know if I'm misinterpreting your objection, or there's something we haven't covered. We take your privacy and security very seriously, and have no interest in making you \"dependent\" - only secure and in control of your data.
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