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4 years ago

Suggestion: Make 'Archive' a default hidden Vault

This is what I've been doing since 2013. Hope this helps in some way.

Issue:
- Keeping 'Archive' and 'Delete' next to each other is a little confusing for most users.
- Users delete when they don't want an item in their account anymore.
- And they archive when they don't use it now, but may want to keep it in case they need to access it at a later time.

Solution:
1. 'Archive' being a hidden Vault 'Tab' shown in Preferences.
2. 'Archive' being a hidden Vault in the side bar (below all Vaults), but can be shown when toggled in Preferences menu.

Let me explain.
- All archived items will have the same privileges and rules as any other Vault, so user can also search, edit, move back an item to any other Vault & delete as well.
- Since it is not part of the main UI, meaning it is archived & so mostly not needed by the user immediately. It keeps the UI clean.
- As a feature, during an extended search - user can be also given the option to search within archive items if they need to.

What I did all these years:
- I have had a vault named 'Archive' for a long time now.
- It is deselected in 'All Vaults' in all my devices; but when I need to search for item in this vault, I then select it specifically to search in it.
- This has worked great for me all these years; as for some reason there has always been a need to access archived items from time to time.

Lastly, I must say I was quite excited when I first saw 'Archive' as an option - but wasn't able to use it since, it was quite confusing & also made me quite skeptical if I might delete any items without realising as it is closer to the 'Deleted Items' + also in fear as to not sure how it works, if it might not give me the functionality of search when needed later & so on.

This is what has stopped me from using Archive till now. Anyways, I am taking the time to write this, because I know you have a great team in there to see what I mean & would do the right thing. Jus wanted to chip in as a long term 1Password user.

Kudos & best wishes.


1Password Version: V8.5
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OS Version: macOS 12.1

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Yesterday I received an email that my passkey beta “trial” was almost up for renewal.

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Since I was not using this account (except for testing logging in with a passkey), I was logged out of it, on all my devices. I still had the passkey stored in iCloud Keychain, but without an already logged in App that’s useless anyway?

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This was a personal account. If it was a family account, would a family organizer be able to restore my access (with or without me using the passkey)?

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Apparently I could delete the account via email, so that’s what I did (deleted both the account and the passkey), but I hope this user experience will improve. Otherwise, I can’t/won’t advice my family members to use this (though I’d love to; they find it difficult to use strong passwords).

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Yesterday I received an email that my passkey beta “trial” was almost up for renewal.

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Since I was not using this account (except for testing logging in with a passkey), I was logged out of it, on all my devices. I still had the passkey stored in iCloud Keychain, but without an already logged in App that’s useless anyway?

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This was a personal account. If it was a family account, would a family organizer be able to restore my access (with or without me using the passkey)?

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Apparently I could delete the account via email, so that’s what I did (deleted both the account and the passkey), but I hope this user experience will improve. Otherwise, I can’t/won’t advice my family members to use this (though I’d love to; they find it difficult to use strong passwords).

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What happens if you log out on all your devices?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:148302"},"body":"

That would explain it, thanks for being part of the early private beta! 🙂

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If you setup a new passkey unlock account in the future then I would recommend adding as many trusted devices as possible and saving a recovery code to prevent being locked out.

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Let me know if you have any other questions.

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-Dave

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Yes, I participated early on in the private beta.

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That explains why I never stored such a key in my real account.

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XIII

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Thanks for the reply! Recovery codes have been available from the start of the public beta (released December 14th, 2023). But if you were part of the earlier private beta then the recovery code was added after that started since we've continued to iterate and introduce new features as we've received feedback from folks.

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Let me know if you have any other questions.

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-Dave

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Was this recovery code available from the start of the beta, or was it added later?

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(If it was available from the start I have totally missed that)

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Hello XIII! 👋

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Thank you for the feedback! At this time, signing up for the passkey unlock beta only allows the creation of a 1Password Individual account. No other account types are supported right now, nor can passkeys be added to existing accounts secured by an account password and Secret Key.

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I recommend that, when using a passkey unlock account, you generate and save a recovery code for your account: Unlock 1Password with a passkey (beta)- Save a recovery code

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If you lose your passkey, or all of your trusted devices, then you can use your recovery code to restore access to your account. To use your recovery code, you'll need to have access to your email to confirm your identity before being able to re-access your passkey unlock account.

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We hope to share more regarding account recovery for other account types in the future. 🙂

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-Dave

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