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dteare
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4 years ago

Introducing 1Password Developer Tools 🎉

👋 Good morning everyone! ☀️

Today is an extra special day as 1Password Developer Tools has officially launched. 🎉

1Password now includes full support for SSH keys, providing the easiest and most secure way for developers to manage SSH keys and use Git in their daily workflow. Together with our new command-line tool, authorizing services and securing your development toolchains is easier then ever.

See our SSH and Git, meet 1Password and Your CLI wish is our command announcement posts for full details. We also have a cool video.

https://youtu.be/5EyrtO0Msgw

These features are included in the latest 1Password 8 release and will be installed automatically for you soon. You can also select Check for updates... from the main menu to give things a nudge if you'd like things sooner.

Enjoy and we'll talk again soon! 🤗

++dave;
1Password Founder

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    1P_SimonH
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    Hi chrispop​ 👋

    These are fair comments and you're not the only one who has brought this up. The short version is that there are some issues with Safari and how it handles extensions that we're waiting on Apple to fix

    I'll also paraphrase something 1P_Mitch​, from our Product team, posted on our subreddit recently about the situation.

    1. We feel the pain too. Lots of people at 1Password use Safari.
    2. It really is the APIs. Safari supports the same extension APIs as Chrome and Firefox — and 95% of our code is shared — but reliability is the issue. One long-standing bug breaks extension communication after using the Back/Forward buttons (an extremely common workflow in a web browser!). The bug was fixed in WebKit in May (WebKit bug #292378), but still isn’t in stable Safari.
    3. Silent failures result from Safari’s messaging system, which sometimes drops internal messages between extension components. That’s why sometimes nothing shows up on the page, or clicking the icon does nothing — the click is detected, but the message never reaches the other side. 1Password can’t detect or recover from this situation.
    4. New features can make things worse. Safari profiles are super useful, but they are not built with extensions in mind. Unlike other browsers, Safari doesn’t let extensions run cleanly across separate profiles. Ours conflicts with itself. No workaround, no API to help.
    5. Progress is uneven. Safari moves on a slower, mostly annual release cycle. Some years fix bugs; others introduce new ones that linger. The extension is less stable today than it was a year ago. We’re hoping this fall brings meaningful improvements, with some evidence (more on this below).
    6. It’s not just us. We use Apple’s official extension framework. Even if we dropped support for every other platform and focused only on Safari, these bugs would still exist. They're in the system-level architecture of Safari extensions.


    Is there any good news?

    Yes. The messaging bug I mentioned earlier is fixed in Safari Technology Preview, and it's made a big difference. We’re thankful to the Safari and WebKit folks who acted on our reports.

    And to be clear, we’re not just pointing fingers. We can and will continue improving the extension across all browsers, Safari included. Your feedback helps us know where to focus. Please keep it coming, and hold us to a high bar.

    Regarding your question about frequent releases, you're right that we do release updates regularly and we consider this a good thing. It means we're squashing bugs and adding features! Our most detailed release notes are available at https://releases.1password.com/, if you want to dig into them!

    I know the explanation doesn't make it any less frustrating when something doesn't work, but know that we're doing everything we can to make 1Password as good as it can be.

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I was going through the 1P settings and noticed Mini. When is 1P mini used vs a browser extension? Should I enable both? Is there ever a time when one is used as opposed to the other? Should I disable Mini and just use an extension? Thanks.

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I was going through the 1P settings and noticed Mini. When is 1P mini used vs a browser extension? Should I enable both? Is there ever a time when one is used as opposed to the other? Should I disable Mini and just use an extension? Thanks.

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@jgearimn7:

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If you want to share the URL of these websites where the extension is not working for you, our developers can certainly take a look :+1:

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That's right ajahn :+1:

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Is 1Password \"mini' the icon on the top menu?
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Thank you for the reply. The browser extension doesn't work on every site. I Created a keyboard shortcut to call up 1P.

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Hi @jgearimn7!

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Most of the time, you should use the extension. 1Password mini has been removed in this form from 1Password 8, so using the extension as your main tool is the recommended approach :+1:

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