First 1Password beta of 2️⃣0️⃣2️⃣2️⃣ 🎉

The latest beta has restored Page Up and Page Down (yay!) but now they're broken in a new way (boo, hiss).

Using Page Up and Page Down now changes the selected item!

Page Up and Page Down should not change the selected item in lists. It should only move the viewport. Compare with Finder, or Contacts, or Reminders, etc.

In some apps, Page Up and Down do move the cursor when in text editing fields, but that doesn't include 1Password. When editing a large note in 1Password8, Page Up and Down (correctly) don't move the cursor position.

I'm sure I must be very annoying.

Hi @Goldgamer:

Thanks for your feedback! Just to confirm, adding an account using your Emergency Kit is currently possible:

You can either import the PDF of your Emergency Kit, or use a camera on your device to scan it. Let me know if that helps or if you're still running into trouble!

Jack

What about login into my account with an QR code? Can this features please be bring back.
Thanks!

for me it is scrolling incredibly quickly and smoothly

I agree, that looks pretty good ... on your M1 supercomputer. :p But I think some of the effect is still visible. Are you trackpad-scrolling? It's more noticeable when dragging the scroll thumb.

It's most noticeable in person; it's harder to feel the latency in the video. There is a significant difference between versions.

https://file.io/WJJ0YSvK92gW

1P7 scrolling is perfect. It's fast and smooth.

1P8 scrolling isn't. The list doesn't "scroll", it goes blank and then items "load in".

Changing the "Hardware Acceleration" setting doesn't make a difference. I also started a few CPU-intensive tasks in the background, and interestingly, that doesn't make it any worse.

This is on a 2015 MacBook Pro. It's not the latest and greatest, but it's still capable of scrolling. :)

This shows a different scrolling glitch -

https://file.io/6j7HcWGkBFmb

Each time a vault is selected, when scrolling by dragging the thumb, the thumb runs away from the pointer. It gets to the bottom before the pointer does. It then behaves correctly until the Vault is selected again.

I wonder if this is related to height calculation, and if it's an interaction with the Item Count being appended to the list of items.

Could you please help me understand how it is important to know the number of items that have a certain tag? And why this information needs to be highly visible, vs accessible when needed?

It helps me getting and keeping the big picture while organizing all of my entries. I ignore the built in categories, instead I tagged all my entries in a hierarchical manner:

Having an item count will show me unbalanced (too many or only 1 or 2) entries per tag. It will also help me to show where I just added or removed an entry, especially useful if I added the wrong tag and the item gets lost within some unknown tag. "Organizing all of my entries" is always the case when I have the desktop app open as in the screenshot. I'm doing this only if I'm organizing. The other case is using the data, which takes place either in the browser extension or with Quick Access.

I understand you just don't want to display irrelevant information. For me, it's relevant. If it's missing, I start clicking through every tag and see if I can merge that tag with some other tag or if I should split that tag into multiple tags.

I would prefer to have it visible all the time but this might be because I have an 27“ monitor so space is not a problem. On smaller screens it might become a problem. Furthermore having it visible all the time works similar to gauge… time to cleanup… really time to do something… do it now😁
Trash typically has some kind of automatic warning system… it starts to smell if not taken out for to long☺️

Gotcha! Thanks for expanding on that viswiz. It still seems that though the information is valuable to have available, it wouldn't need to be "in your face" constantly when using the app? It sounds like something that would be checked on periodically, vs something that needs to be front and center.

I don't keep trash bags on my desk as a constant reminder that there is trash in the house. I don't take the trash out every day. I take it out once per week on pickup day. I go get the bags out of the cupboard once per week when I need them.

Maybe that's a terrible analogy; I'm not sure. 😅 Either way, I'm still a bit unclear on the importance of having this information in a prominent spot in the UI, vs in a spot that is reachable when it is needed.

Ben

In my case the item count is a kind of reminder to clean up. I'm a software developer and part of my work is setting up VMs, test systems and joining forums :) . All of them require accounts and often additional data like attachments, a router or server config. I tend to put all of them into a single vault. The item count reminds me when it's time to clean up and what category is affected most, i. e. removing obsolete items, grouping some of them into a different vault...
It's a bit like working for years on your source code until it gets to messy. So you start to clean up, refactor, rebuild. One thing that helps to find the worst parts are code metrics. One could call them the software developer's item count ;)

I‘ve asked the same question here.

Merged. :)

I can't comment on the timeline, but I can say we're looking at adding this information in another spot to make it more available. Beyond that to avoid having another thread on the same subject let's continue anything further in the above linked thread. :)

Apropos category: I don't speak of the built in categories, which is only some kind of filter. I speak of the real containers at the leftmost column.

That's an interesting point. Could you please help me understand how it is important to know the number of items that have a certain tag? And why this information needs to be highly visible, vs accessible when needed?

I think one of the challenges here is we're having trouble understanding the use case. The primary concern I've heard of is being able to see these numbers at a glance to check for sync issues. That's valid, but ideally there would be a better way to indicate sync issues, such as a dedicated connection monitor that could tell you when accounts haven't synced recently and why/how to fix that. We have some designs around that idea too, and I'm hoping that is a direction we'll take.

Ben

Indeed. Item Counts were originally at the bottom of the window as expected in an earlier beta so it was always visible. And then for some strange and unknown reason they moved it to the bottom of the list where you have to scroll to the bottom to see it. Just the latest in a series of unfortunate UI decisions that AgileBits seems not inclined to address.