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AgingKeeper
7 months agoDedicated Contributor
Issues saving and signing in with passkeys on the Mac
Hi,
With 1Password having added Passkeys I decided to see if they are useful. I now have several accounts that have passkeys.
Several times over the past couple of days I have been in a situatio...
AgingKeeper
7 months agoDedicated Contributor
Dave,
Sorry to say I did not document what is happening precisely, but I am happy to do so. To answer your questions:
- Browser(s): I am using a two browsers Safari & Orion RC. I am not certain if one or both of them had these issues.
- I believe I only have 9 passkeys. Of these I beleive I was using one or more of Gmail, Intuit (TurboTax & Quickbooks), Discourse over the time frame when I noticed the issues I posted about.
- Regarding the prompt, I do not recall seeing the prompt but that doesn't mean it did not appear. 1Password prompts appear often enough when I do not need them so that I have become somewhat desensitized to them. Not a complaint just the nature of the beast. An example of this is my pharmacy at my grocery store. After I have logged into the grocery store I need to enter a fixed passcode to access the pharmacy. When I enter the passcode 1Password asks me if I want to update an existing item or enter a new item. Unfortunately I have no idea how this would work and am "afraid" to "Update Existing" because I do not want the four digit passcode to replace my strong password. Not figuring out what to do contributes to the desensitizing. Perhaps just me, perhaps not.
I am happy to test this a bit more rigorously. Need to think about how to test the Passkey creation process and how to do this effectively with multiple browsers (especially Orion RC which is not offically not supported).
Cheers!
1P_Dave
Moderator
7 months agoThank you for those details. Since (as you mentioned) Orion isn't a supported browser, I suggest that we focus on Safari for now and make sure that everything is working properly there first.
Can you try to reproduce a circumstance where 1Password isn't suggesting or saving a passkey in Safari and then, so that I can investigate further, I'd like to ask you to create a diagnostics report from 1Password in your browser:
Send a diagnostics report (browser extension)
Attach the diagnostics to an email message addressed to support@1password.com
With your email please include:
- A link to this thread: https://www.1password.community/discussions/1password/1password-and-passkeys---what-is-going-on/154015/replies/154073
- Your forum username: AgingKeeper
You should receive an automated reply from our BitBot assistant with a Support ID number. Please post that number here. Thanks very much!
An example of this is my pharmacy at my grocery store. After I have logged into the grocery store I need to enter a fixed passcode to access the pharmacy. When I enter the passcode 1Password asks me if I want to update an existing item or enter a new item. Unfortunately I have no idea how this would work and am "afraid" to "Update Existing" because I do not want the four digit passcode to replace my strong password.
It sounds like 1Password's filling brain might need to be updated to better handle the passcode. Once you open a ticket via email for the passkey issue using the steps above, the team can request some data about the grocery store page over email and file an issue with our development team.
-Dave
- AgingKeeper6 months agoDedicated Contributor
Hi 1P_Dave ,
Haven't been able to repeatably produce some of my issues using Safari for a website that is also on the Passkeys directory.
I mentioned Intuit in my OP (not in the directory apparently). The attached photo shows the issue I ran into trying to login to Intuit's site when I selected the button to Use Passkey. I anticipated having 1Password provide the passkey directly from my Mac. The UI that you can see in the image did not provide me the ability to use the passkey from my Mac. I ended up selecting the Cancel button, selecting the option to Use Password and then when 1Password provided me a list of logins I used the login that had the passkey icon associated with it (sorry did not take screenshot of this screen).
Of course I have no idea what is happening under the hood in this scenario:
- Which party is providing the UI asking for the password? Is it Apple, &/or Intuit &/or 1Password?
- When I selected what I beleived to be the passkey from my list of Intuit logins I assume that 1Password actually passed my passkey to Intui and that Intuit accepted it. Of course it could also have passed my username, password and 2FA code & I would not know it.
I am fairly certain that I can reproduce this for you as requested if it is helpful. I didn't want to clutter up this process because Intuit is not on the Passkeys directory.
I also am having a similar but different issue with Apple. I want to create a passkey that 1Password stores for Apple. Unfortunately Apple has me use my fingerprint to login and I can find no way to work around that yet. I will ping Apple support to have them help me.
Cheers,
Chip
- 1P_Dave6 months ago
Moderator
Thank you for the screenshots and all of the details. The prompt in your screenshot is coming from macOS, not 1Password. Make sure that the built-in password manager is completely turned off: Turn off the built-in password manager in your browser
When a website requests a passkey, 1Password should show a special prompt that looks like this:
Once you've confirmed that the built-in password manager is completely turned off, try to sign in again. Do you see a prompt that looks like the above? If you don't then make sure that passkey saving and sign-in is turned on for 1Password in Safari:- Open Safari.
- Right-click on the 1Password icon in your browser's toolbar and click Settings.
- Make sure that "Make 1Password the default password maanger in this browser" is turned on.
- Click Autofill & save.
- Make sure that the following are turned on:
- Offer to fill and save passwords.
- Offer to save and sign in with passkeys.
If you still don't see the prompt when signing into Intuit after trying these steps then let me know.-Dave
- AgingKeeper6 months agoDedicated Contributor
Hi Dave,
I confirmed that things are set up in the same manner as defined in the references above (they were, I made no changes).
I tried logging into the Intuit site again and 1Password's dialog opened and then the dialog coming from macOS appears and prevents me from using the 1Password dialog.
I restarted Safari and the macOS dialog has not returned. Boogey men perhaps. Will keep an eye on this and let you all know if I run into further problems.
Cheers & thanks for the assistance, have a great day!
- AgingKeeper7 months agoDedicated Contributor
Dave,
I will set aside some time Saturday to collect data.
The pitcure I have in my mind is that the diagnostics capture "debug" information captured by the app/extension. If I ID multiple issues that I can reproduce do I simply replicate them all one after another and send one diagnostic report or do I submit a separate report for each item? Is the data dependent on the time between my producing the issue.
Thanks!
Chip