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jcrAggie's avatar
jcrAggie
New Contributor
6 days ago

Default for Sign In Automatically after Autofill

I may not be a "typical" user, as I am continually looking at new browsers and computer for my personal and professional life. I use 1Password extensively in my personal and professional life. I have both personal and business accounts. As a result, I am installing the 1Password extension many times, not necessarily daily, or even weekly, but often enough where I feel this warrants at least a discussion.

I am not a fan of the "sign in automatically after autofill" feature. While I can see it as a "nice" feature for some, for me it creates more confusion in the long run than whatever it is trying to "solve". Especially in this day and age of MFA, 2FA, etc. And for our older, more "mature" audience members, the quick actions after autofilling can lead to confusion. Anyway, I digress. I really dislike that I have to turn this "feature" OFF with every install. Why not have this default to OFF and make a suggestion to turn it ON if wanted? "Hey, did you know that 1Password can auto-submit your login? Go to settings and enable this.... " etc etc etc. While I do see that having many features enabled by default is a good thing, I feel that some features should be left up to the user to enable and not forced upon us.

Could you consider making this an "optional" or "opt-in" feature and not turned on by default?

Maybe I'm in the minority, and that's ok. It's just a suggestion.

Thank you for your time!

3 Replies

  • 1P_Timothy's avatar
    1P_Timothy
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager

    Hi jcrAggie​, thanks for writing in! I really appreciate your thoughtful discourse here.

    Anecdotally I remember auto-submit being a frequently requested feature before it's introduction, and something I still see positive feedback on. While I can't speak to the product conversation that took place around auto-submit, setting something on or off by default would not be a decision made without cause. 

    I hope that doesn't come off as dismissive as that's certainly not my intent. The reason features like this exist, and why you continue to see iterations and enhancements to 1Password is thanks to input like yours. For your use case I can definitely understand the benefit of having auto-submit off by default. I can't say this is something that will be changed, but I've shared your feedback with the team.

    Having an auto-submit option appear on setup, or first launch as you and AJCxZ0​  described is an interesting an idea. That's an area where we also aim to strike a fine balance between helpful for new users, and causing minimal friction for frequent users. Adding extra steps or toggles can tip the balance one way or another, but I can see this being more on the helpful side. I've included feedback on this for the team as well.

    Thanks again for your input on this! 

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    • jcrAggie's avatar
      jcrAggie
      New Contributor

      Thank you for the reply!

      I absolutely think that auto-submit was more beneficial back when first introduced. There is no question about it. However, I feel the login landscape has dramatically changed in the past few years, between various 2FA/MFA schemes, notifications at pre-login as others have indicated and other types of login schemes being introduced these days. I just feel that too quickly logging into sites automatically without that being a user decision up front could create more confusion and even animosity towards PW managers in general. And we certainly don't need that in this day and age. I know I'm happy when I can get family/friends/co-workers using ANY PW manager (of course I prefer 1PW). 

      Again, I really appreciate you and others taking the time for your input and thoughts. This is what makes the 1PW community work and thrive!

  • AJCxZ0's avatar
    AJCxZ0
    Bronze Expert

    This seems like a feature which deserves a prompt on first run, with instructions on how to change the setting - much as you describe.

    While I keep it on, occasionally I'll see an option on a login page which I might have changed disappear as I'm automatically logged in. One day it'll be something like, "By logging in you agree that..." and it's gone.

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I may not be a \"typical\" user, as I am continually looking at new browsers and computer for my personal and professional life. I use 1Password extensively in my personal and professional life. I have both personal and business accounts. As a result, I am installing the 1Password extension many times, not necessarily daily, or even weekly, but often enough where I feel this warrants at least a discussion.

I am not a fan of the \"sign in automatically after autofill\" feature. While I can see it as a \"nice\" feature for some, for me it creates more confusion in the long run than whatever it is trying to \"solve\". Especially in this day and age of MFA, 2FA, etc. And for our older, more \"mature\" audience members, the quick actions after autofilling can lead to confusion. Anyway, I digress. I really dislike that I have to turn this \"feature\" OFF with every install. Why not have this default to OFF and make a suggestion to turn it ON if wanted? \"Hey, did you know that 1Password can auto-submit your login? Go to settings and enable this.... \" etc etc etc. While I do see that having many features enabled by default is a good thing, I feel that some features should be left up to the user to enable and not forced upon us.

Could you consider making this an \"optional\" or \"opt-in\" feature and not turned on by default?

Maybe I'm in the minority, and that's ok. It's just a suggestion.

Thank you for your time!

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I may not be a \"typical\" user, as I am continually looking at new browsers and computer for my personal and professional life. I use 1Password extensively in my personal and professional life. I have both personal and business accounts. As a result, I am installing the 1Password extension many times, not necessarily daily, or even weekly, but often enough where I feel this warrants at least a discussion.

I am not a fan of the \"sign in automatically after autofill\" feature. While I can see it as a \"nice\" feature for some, for me it creates more confusion in the long run than whatever it is trying to \"solve\". Especially in this day and age of MFA, 2FA, etc. And for our older, more \"mature\" audience members, the quick actions after autofilling can lead to confusion. Anyway, I digress. I really dislike that I have to turn this \"feature\" OFF with every install. Why not have this default to OFF and make a suggestion to turn it ON if wanted? \"Hey, did you know that 1Password can auto-submit your login? Go to settings and enable this.... \" etc etc etc. While I do see that having many features enabled by default is a good thing, I feel that some features should be left up to the user to enable and not forced upon us.

Could you consider making this an \"optional\" or \"opt-in\" feature and not turned on by default?

Maybe I'm in the minority, and that's ok. It's just a suggestion.

Thank you for your time!

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Hi jcrAggie​, thanks for writing in! I really appreciate your thoughtful discourse here.

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Anecdotally I remember auto-submit being a frequently requested feature before it's introduction, and something I still see positive feedback on. While I can't speak to the product conversation that took place around auto-submit, setting something on or off by default would not be a decision made without cause. 

I hope that doesn't come off as dismissive as that's certainly not my intent. The reason features like this exist, and why you continue to see iterations and enhancements to 1Password is thanks to input like yours. For your use case I can definitely understand the benefit of having auto-submit off by default. I can't say this is something that will be changed, but I've shared your feedback with the team.

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Having an auto-submit option appear on setup, or first launch as you and AJCxZ0​  described is an interesting an idea. That's an area where we also aim to strike a fine balance between helpful for new users, and causing minimal friction for frequent users. Adding extra steps or toggles can tip the balance one way or another, but I can see this being more on the helpful side. I've included feedback on this for the team as well.

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Thanks again for your input on this! 

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Thank you for the reply!

I absolutely think that auto-submit was more beneficial back when first introduced. There is no question about it. However, I feel the login landscape has dramatically changed in the past few years, between various 2FA/MFA schemes, notifications at pre-login as others have indicated and other types of login schemes being introduced these days. I just feel that too quickly logging into sites automatically without that being a user decision up front could create more confusion and even animosity towards PW managers in general. And we certainly don't need that in this day and age. I know I'm happy when I can get family/friends/co-workers using ANY PW manager (of course I prefer 1PW). 

Again, I really appreciate you and others taking the time for your input and thoughts. This is what makes the 1PW community work and thrive!

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This seems like a feature which deserves a prompt on first run, with instructions on how to change the setting - much as you describe.

While I keep it on, occasionally I'll see an option on a login page which I might have changed disappear as I'm automatically logged in. One day it'll be something like, \"By logging in you agree that...\" and it's gone.

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